Matthias:No Mike. AGI must be able to discover regularities of all kind in
all
domains.
If you can find a single domain where your AGI fails, it is no AGI.
Matthias,
Well, it's v. easy to say "no." Can you back it up with a single example?A
single analogy, metaphor, creative idea/discovery/invention, or a single,
everyday resourceful idea that is based on a regularity?
Actually creativity is based on *irregular comparisons* between objects in
different domains. The archetypal example was the problem where a chap had
to measure the volume of a v. irregularly-shaped object - a crown. There
was, of course, no way to do it, until he came up with the highly lateral
idea, (which as creative ideas almost always do, had no precedent) - of
dunking the object into a water container, and then measuring the regular,
easy-to-measure volume of the water displaced rather than the object itself.
Eureka.
That's the essence of every creative idea - and just about every analogy,
metaphor, and form of resourcefulness. You make *irregular* comparisons
between objects in different domains - irregular in that there is no formal
way of comparing the objects, (such as logic or maths or any form of
measurement). In this case, the comparison was between a strangely-shaped
solid, a crown, and water. There are no regularities here. [N.b. either of
the objects can be regular in itself - it is the *comparison* that is
irregular].
Similarly, if you look at metaphors etc - e.g. "mushroom cloud" or "clouds
crying" - you will find that they make irregular comparisons between objects
in different domains, ("mushroom" and "cloud", "raindrops" and "tears"),
which there is no formal way of comparing. There is no mathematical or
logical way to liken those objects.
*Irregular* comparisons are the basis of creativity and general intelligence
and AGI. If you don't understand this, you don't really understand AGI.
(It should be obvious too that an AGI only classifies as such if it is able
to adapt to problem situations - very different from those of chess - where
no pre-existing rules or "regular" procedures apply).
If you disagree, give me a single example of an analogy, metaphor, creative
idea/discovery/invention, or a single resourceful idea that was arrived at
by finding a regularity - making a regular comparison. (BTW this is not a
"magical" approach to creativity and AGI - it is highly concrete and
example-based. I hope you will be, too).
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agi
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