Thanks for the more specific answer. It was the most illuminating of the
ones I've gotten. I realize that this isn't really the right list for
questions about human subjects experiments; just thought I'd give it a try.

Richard Loosemore wrote:
> Harry Chesley wrote:
>> On 1/9/2009 9:45 AM, Richard Loosemore wrote:
>>>  There are certainly experiments that might address some of your
>>>  concerns, but I am afraid you will have to acquire a general
>>>  knowledge of what is known, first, to be able to make sense of what
>>>  they might tell you.  There is nothing that can be plucked and
>>>  delivered as a direct answer.
>>
>> I was not asking for a complete answer. I was asking for experiments
>> that shed light on the area. I don't expect a mature answer, only
>> more food for thought. Your answer that there are such experiments,
>> but you're not going to tell me what they are is not a useful one.
>> Don't worry about whether I can digest the experimental context.
>> Maybe I know more than you assume I do.
>
> What I am trying to say is that you will find answers that are
> partially relevant to your question scattered across about a third of
> the chapters of any comprehensive introduction to cognitive
> psychology.  And then, at a deeper level, you will find something of
> relevance in numerous more specialized documents.  But they are so
> scattered that I could not possibly start to produce a comprehensive
> list!
>
> For example, the easiest things to mention are "object perception"
> within a developmental psychology framework (see a dev psych textbook
> for entire chapters on that);  the psycholgy of "concepts" will
> involve numerous experiments that require judgements of whether
> objects are same or different (but in each case the experiment will
> not be focussed on answering the direct question you might be
> asking);  the question of how concepts are represented sometimes
> involves the dialectic between the "prototype" and "exemplar" camps
> (see book by Smith and Medin), which partially touches on the
> question;  there are discussions in the connectionist literature about
> the problem of type-token discrimination (see Norman's chapter at the
> end of the second PDP volume - McClelland and Rumelhart 1986/7);  then
> there is neurospychology of naming... see books on psychololinguistics
> like the one written by Trevor Harley for a comprehensive introduction
> to that area);  there are also vast numbers of studies to do with
> recognition of abstract concepts using neural nets (you could pick up
> three or four papers that I wrote in the 1990s which center on the
> problem of extracting the spelled for of words using phoneme clusters
> if you look at the publications section of my website, susaro.com, but
> there are thousands of others).........
>
> Then, you could also wait for my own textbook (in preparation) which
> treats the formation of concepts and the mechanisms of abstraction
> from the Molecular perspective.
>
>
> These are just examples picked at random.  none of them answer your
> question, they just give you pieces of the puzzle, for you to assemble
> into a half-working answer after a couple of years of study ;-).
>
>
> Anyone who knew the field would say, in response to your inquiry, "But
> what exactly do you mean by the question....?", and they would say
> this because your question touches upon about six or seven major areas
> of inquiry, in the most general possible terms.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard Loosemore
>
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