On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:58 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>>    A person whose Vexity is zero may initiate a Call for Judgement by
>>    announcement. A person whose Vexity is not zero may initiate a Call
>>    for Judgement with N Agoran Support, where N is the value of that
>>    person's Vexity switch.
> 
> The fact that there are circumstances in which a person CANNOT initiate
> a CFJ on eir own is pretty clearly a violation of R217, IMO.  It's a
> direct Rules to the Contrary Notwithstanding requirement that a person
> be able to do this.
> 
> Initiate to later have dismissed?  Fine.  Not able to initiate without
> another player's intervention?  Not fine I would guess.

Good catch.

It’s interesting to note that, in the West, the very idea of a “vexatious 
litigant,” and of restricting their access to the courts, came about as a 
response to one intensely obnoxious Englishman - one Alexander Chaffers, in 
1896. His campaign of frivolous litigation against Sir Travers Twiss and his 
wife Marie was so extensive, and he himself so unwilling to bring it to a 
close, that Parliament saw fit to pass a law specifically to stop him.

Twiss and his wife separated as a result of Chaffers’ harassment, and Sir Twiss 
himself died penniless in a workhouse, so it didn’t quite work as well as 
planned.

In any case, I understand how severe a step restricting access to CFJs would 
be, and have no intention of pending any such proposals, but I’ve rather 
enjoyed the discussion.

I think nichdel’s response might be the most effective.

On Jul 19, 2017, at 6:45 AM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel that needing to rally people each time for an increase or something 
> could be as similarly annoying as the vexity itself. (In vaccum it would 
> ideal though, its just that in practice it needs to leech on other peoples 
> time/attention to work, when that leeching is the problem in the first place)

Surprisingly, that’s intentional, for two reasons.

One: as above, restricting someone’s ability to initiate CFJs is an extreme 
step. It should not be undertaken lightly, and giving an Officer the ability to 
do so unilaterally is, I think, worse than any campaign of CFJ abuse.

Two: requiring support gives those who feel wronged or frustrated by a campaign 
of frivolous CFJs justifies an opportunity to spend that frustration. By giving 
them a hand in the process, I suspected people would feel more like they’d 
personally had a hand in bringing the offender to a stop, and therefore would 
be more likely to consider the matter closed.

-o

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