I've been using PSake for build/test/deploy on some home projects
and am pretty happy with it.  Many wtf moments though with powershell
though, so the F#/FAKE alternative sound appealing (I don't know F#
but hey its functional).
  I do not think I'd go through the effort to make C# available from
the command-line given powershell is already there.  File manipulation
in powershell is much smoother than C#.


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris Bilson pointed me to this today: http://www.csscript.net/
> Pretty damn close to what I want.
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> This is probably not what you're talking about, but I like Snippet
>> Compiler, and would love something like that combined with better
>> IntelliSense, support for WinForms/WPF/Silverlight/ASP.NET, etc, the
>> capacity to optionally handle multiple files, and....
>>
>> Oh, wait!  I have something like that.  It's called Visual Studio with R#!
>> Seriously, though, VS's solution and project files are a pain sometimes,
>> but I'm not sure what the better options are.
>> Convention over configuration?
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Howard Dierking
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m working on a blog post at the moment to document the insane hoops we
>>> had to jump through in order to get our build automation in place for an
>>> Umbraco extension solution.  VS and .sln files were (as you might expect)
>>> one of the central problems we had to overcome.
>>>
>>> _howard
>>>
>>> From: Justin Bozonier
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:23 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Screw You VS Project and Solution Files!
>>>
>>> I'll give you both that... There's something between VS and NotePad...
>>> Some people like Vim or Emacs, Textmate, etc... So yeah. With y'all there.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Eric Ridgeway <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am with Charlie on a lot of this. I joke often about just using
>>>> notepad but that's not something I really would want to do. I would be
>>>> inclined for a "visual studio: the good parts" edition however. Preferably 
>>>> a
>>>> light weight stand alone editor with good refactoring help (mostly for
>>>> speed). I've been doing a little bit of spiking fun in linqpad lately and
>>>> using the c# program template to try a few things out, along with trying a
>>>> little F#. This feels a lot like what I would prefer to use. An environment
>>>> I could easily drop on a thumb drive and go to town with.
>>>>
>>>> Just some thoughts on the topic.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM, "Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > Well of course you *can* work with just notepad and the SDK.
>>>> >
>>>> > Personally, I'd prefer a better editor than notepad though.
>>>> >
>>>> > Charlie
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Justin Bozonier
>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> What if we could develop .NET programs without any IDE... just
>>>> >> Notepad
>>>> >> and a heart filled with hope? It'd be hawt that's what!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've been ruminating on why I feel so much more productive in Ruby
>>>> >> land and on how I can bring some of that to the MS development stack.
>>>> >> One of the big pain points for me is Visual Studio and all of its
>>>> >> project and solution files.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At first I thought it was the fact Ruby doesn't compile.. That's nice
>>>> >> but not **huge**... Python compiles after all... Then I realized one
>>>> >> of the big things Visual Studio (along with R#) helps me do is find
>>>> >> my
>>>> >> classes and files. I've seen leaning on Visual Studio cause an
>>>> >> enormous loss of cohesion across packages which forms a self-
>>>> >> reinforcing cycle of needing even more Visual Studio packagement.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is an experiment I've been working with over the past couple
>>>> >> research days that was a thought of what could be done to reduce that
>>>> >> pain. It's a Ruby script you can run in a folder to compile all c#
>>>> >> files and execute them as though they were a set of scripts and
>>>> >> modules. It's VERY simplistic and I only consider it a proof of
>>>> >> concept but still I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this.
>>>> >> Ideally, I'd like to be able to develop an entire C# application only
>>>> >> using this technique.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You can get a rough idea of what's going on inside the tests but I
>>>> >> did
>>>> >> a bad job testing. So ask questions if you got 'em.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Anyone else with thoughts on this or other ways of doing truly
>>>> >> "Alt" .NET development? :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The git: https://github.com/jcbozonier/IronLove
>>>> >>
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