A web based IDE seems like a good fit with the "compiler as a service" concept. But what would the lag be...
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > Web-based IDE anyone? How about REST-based project/solution API (whether > files, classes, resources, or otherwise)? Integrated directly with Github? > > Wanna develop in the console? Use a Lynx-like browser? > > And the more I think about it, the more I like the thought of a > convention-based project/solution structure a la Java. > > That being said, I'm pretty damn comfortable editing .csproj files anymore, > and honestly have come across multiple situations where I'm not sure simple > filesystem or path-based conventional project architecture would have been > able to cut it. Think of including a .cs file as a non-compiled resource > and wanting to be able to see it next to a compiled .cs file because they're > logically related. > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Ted Neward <[email protected]> wrote: > >> e is “not great”, at least, not out of the box. I’ve been using it for a >> while now as the editor of choice during coding demos, and it’s color-syntax >> support (among other things) leaves a fair amount to be desired. Granted, I >> haven’t spent a lot of time experimenting with tweaking/editing the TextMate >> bundles, but I don’t want to spend weeks customizing an editor if the bundle >> for doing something relatively straightforward (color-syntax highlighting >> for Java, for example) doesn’t get it right. >> >> >> >> Ted Neward >> >> Java, .NET, XML Services >> >> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing >> >> http://www.tedneward.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Ridgeway >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:29 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: Screw You VS Project and Solution Files! >> >> >> >> Yeah I think vim, emacs, textmate, e .... are moving all toward the right >> direction if not already there... think I personally need to spend more time >> with them... >> >> On Nov 16, 2010 8:23 PM, "Justin Bozonier" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'll give you both that... There's something between VS and NotePad... >> Some >> > people like Vim or Emacs, Textmate, etc... So yeah. With y'all there. >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Eric Ridgeway <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> I am with Charlie on a lot of this. I joke often about just using >> notepad >> >> but that's not something I really would want to do. I would be inclined >> for >> >> a "visual studio: the good parts" edition however. Preferably a light >> weight >> >> stand alone editor with good refactoring help (mostly for speed). I've >> been >> >> doing a little bit of spiking fun in linqpad lately and using the c# >> program >> >> template to try a few things out, along with trying a little F#. This >> feels >> >> a lot like what I would prefer to use. An environment I could easily >> drop on >> >> a thumb drive and go to town with. >> >> >> >> Just some thoughts on the topic. >> >> On Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM, "Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Well of course you *can* work with just notepad and the SDK. >> >> > >> >> > Personally, I'd prefer a better editor than notepad though. >> >> > >> >> > Charlie >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Justin Bozonier < >> [email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> What if we could develop .NET programs without any IDE... just >> Notepad >> >> >> and a heart filled with hope? It'd be hawt that's what! >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been ruminating on why I feel so much more productive in Ruby >> >> >> land and on how I can bring some of that to the MS development >> stack. >> >> >> One of the big pain points for me is Visual Studio and all of its >> >> >> project and solution files. >> >> >> >> >> >> At first I thought it was the fact Ruby doesn't compile.. That's >> nice >> >> >> but not **huge**... Python compiles after all... Then I realized one >> >> >> of the big things Visual Studio (along with R#) helps me do is find >> my >> >> >> classes and files. I've seen leaning on Visual Studio cause an >> >> >> enormous loss of cohesion across packages which forms a self- >> >> >> reinforcing cycle of needing even more Visual Studio packagement. >> >> >> >> >> >> This is an experiment I've been working with over the past couple >> >> >> research days that was a thought of what could be done to reduce >> that >> >> >> pain. It's a Ruby script you can run in a folder to compile all c# >> >> >> files and execute them as though they were a set of scripts and >> >> >> modules. It's VERY simplistic and I only consider it a proof of >> >> >> concept but still I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this. >> >> >> Ideally, I'd like to be able to develop an entire C# application >> only >> >> >> using this technique. >> >> >> >> >> >> You can get a rough idea of what's going on inside the tests but I >> did >> >> >> a bad job testing. So ask questions if you got 'em. >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone else with thoughts on this or other ways of doing truly >> >> >> "Alt" .NET development? :) >> >> >> >> >> >> The git: https://github.com/jcbozonier/IronLove >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> . >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- Ian Davis http://innovatian.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. 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