e is "not great", at least, not out of the box. I've been using it for a while now as the editor of choice during coding demos, and it's color-syntax support (among other things) leaves a fair amount to be desired. Granted, I haven't spent a lot of time experimenting with tweaking/editing the TextMate bundles, but I don't want to spend weeks customizing an editor if the bundle for doing something relatively straightforward (color-syntax highlighting for Java, for example) doesn't get it right.
Ted Neward Java, .NET, XML Services Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing http://www.tedneward.com From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Ridgeway Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Screw You VS Project and Solution Files! Yeah I think vim, emacs, textmate, e .... are moving all toward the right direction if not already there... think I personally need to spend more time with them... On Nov 16, 2010 8:23 PM, "Justin Bozonier" <[email protected]> wrote: > I'll give you both that... There's something between VS and NotePad... Some > people like Vim or Emacs, Textmate, etc... So yeah. With y'all there. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Eric Ridgeway <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am with Charlie on a lot of this. I joke often about just using notepad >> but that's not something I really would want to do. I would be inclined for >> a "visual studio: the good parts" edition however. Preferably a light weight >> stand alone editor with good refactoring help (mostly for speed). I've been >> doing a little bit of spiking fun in linqpad lately and using the c# program >> template to try a few things out, along with trying a little F#. This feels >> a lot like what I would prefer to use. An environment I could easily drop on >> a thumb drive and go to town with. >> >> Just some thoughts on the topic. >> On Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM, "Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Well of course you *can* work with just notepad and the SDK. >> > >> > Personally, I'd prefer a better editor than notepad though. >> > >> > Charlie >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What if we could develop .NET programs without any IDE... just Notepad >> >> and a heart filled with hope? It'd be hawt that's what! >> >> >> >> I've been ruminating on why I feel so much more productive in Ruby >> >> land and on how I can bring some of that to the MS development stack. >> >> One of the big pain points for me is Visual Studio and all of its >> >> project and solution files. >> >> >> >> At first I thought it was the fact Ruby doesn't compile.. That's nice >> >> but not **huge**... Python compiles after all... Then I realized one >> >> of the big things Visual Studio (along with R#) helps me do is find my >> >> classes and files. I've seen leaning on Visual Studio cause an >> >> enormous loss of cohesion across packages which forms a self- >> >> reinforcing cycle of needing even more Visual Studio packagement. >> >> >> >> This is an experiment I've been working with over the past couple >> >> research days that was a thought of what could be done to reduce that >> >> pain. It's a Ruby script you can run in a folder to compile all c# >> >> files and execute them as though they were a set of scripts and >> >> modules. It's VERY simplistic and I only consider it a proof of >> >> concept but still I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this. >> >> Ideally, I'd like to be able to develop an entire C# application only >> >> using this technique. >> >> >> >> You can get a rough idea of what's going on inside the tests but I did >> >> a bad job testing. So ask questions if you got 'em. >> >> >> >> Anyone else with thoughts on this or other ways of doing truly >> >> "Alt" .NET development? :) >> >> >> >> The git: https://github.com/jcbozonier/IronLove >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> <altnetseattle%[email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> > >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> <altnetseattle%[email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> > >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> <altnetseattle%[email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> > >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] <mailto:altnetseattle%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. 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