Web-based IDE anyone? How about REST-based project/solution API (whether files, classes, resources, or otherwise)? Integrated directly with Github?
Wanna develop in the console? Use a Lynx-like browser? And the more I think about it, the more I like the thought of a convention-based project/solution structure a la Java. That being said, I'm pretty damn comfortable editing .csproj files anymore, and honestly have come across multiple situations where I'm not sure simple filesystem or path-based conventional project architecture would have been able to cut it. Think of including a .cs file as a non-compiled resource and wanting to be able to see it next to a compiled .cs file because they're logically related. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Ted Neward <[email protected]> wrote: > e is “not great”, at least, not out of the box. I’ve been using it for a > while now as the editor of choice during coding demos, and it’s color-syntax > support (among other things) leaves a fair amount to be desired. Granted, I > haven’t spent a lot of time experimenting with tweaking/editing the TextMate > bundles, but I don’t want to spend weeks customizing an editor if the bundle > for doing something relatively straightforward (color-syntax highlighting > for Java, for example) doesn’t get it right. > > > > Ted Neward > > Java, .NET, XML Services > > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing > > http://www.tedneward.com > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Eric Ridgeway > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:29 PM > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: Screw You VS Project and Solution Files! > > > > Yeah I think vim, emacs, textmate, e .... are moving all toward the right > direction if not already there... think I personally need to spend more time > with them... > > On Nov 16, 2010 8:23 PM, "Justin Bozonier" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'll give you both that... There's something between VS and NotePad... > Some > > people like Vim or Emacs, Textmate, etc... So yeah. With y'all there. > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Eric Ridgeway <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> I am with Charlie on a lot of this. I joke often about just using > notepad > >> but that's not something I really would want to do. I would be inclined > for > >> a "visual studio: the good parts" edition however. Preferably a light > weight > >> stand alone editor with good refactoring help (mostly for speed). I've > been > >> doing a little bit of spiking fun in linqpad lately and using the c# > program > >> template to try a few things out, along with trying a little F#. This > feels > >> a lot like what I would prefer to use. An environment I could easily > drop on > >> a thumb drive and go to town with. > >> > >> Just some thoughts on the topic. > >> On Nov 16, 2010 8:05 PM, "Charlie Poole" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Well of course you *can* work with just notepad and the SDK. > >> > > >> > Personally, I'd prefer a better editor than notepad though. > >> > > >> > Charlie > >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Justin Bozonier < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> What if we could develop .NET programs without any IDE... just > Notepad > >> >> and a heart filled with hope? It'd be hawt that's what! > >> >> > >> >> I've been ruminating on why I feel so much more productive in Ruby > >> >> land and on how I can bring some of that to the MS development stack. > >> >> One of the big pain points for me is Visual Studio and all of its > >> >> project and solution files. > >> >> > >> >> At first I thought it was the fact Ruby doesn't compile.. That's nice > >> >> but not **huge**... Python compiles after all... Then I realized one > >> >> of the big things Visual Studio (along with R#) helps me do is find > my > >> >> classes and files. I've seen leaning on Visual Studio cause an > >> >> enormous loss of cohesion across packages which forms a self- > >> >> reinforcing cycle of needing even more Visual Studio packagement. > >> >> > >> >> This is an experiment I've been working with over the past couple > >> >> research days that was a thought of what could be done to reduce that > >> >> pain. It's a Ruby script you can run in a folder to compile all c# > >> >> files and execute them as though they were a set of scripts and > >> >> modules. It's VERY simplistic and I only consider it a proof of > >> >> concept but still I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this. > >> >> Ideally, I'd like to be able to develop an entire C# application only > >> >> using this technique. > >> >> > >> >> You can get a rough idea of what's going on inside the tests but I > did > >> >> a bad job testing. So ask questions if you got 'em. > >> >> > >> >> Anyone else with thoughts on this or other ways of doing truly > >> >> "Alt" .NET development? :) > >> >> > >> >> The git: https://github.com/jcbozonier/IronLove > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > > > >> . > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > > > >> . > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > <altnetseattle%[email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > > > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<altnetseattle%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/altnetseattle?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Seattle area Alt.Net" group. 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