Gene,

Thanks for your information.

I tried the gzip way but it took too long on my backup server.

With my old LTO2 drive I took 90% of the compressed value and used that as the 
length. With   "device-property "LEOM" "true"" and part_size 40GB, I was 
getting close to filling my tapes to 100%.

If I ever get a faster backup server I will retry the gizp way again.

Thanks again,

Robert




> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org [mailto:owner-amanda-us...@amanda.org]
> On Behalf Of gene heskett
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:43 AM
> To: amanda-users@amanda.org
> Subject: Re: Do you use this library
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:17:33 AM McGraw, Robert P did opine:
> 
> > JF,
> >
> >
> > Recently you sent me your tapetype for an lto4 drive. I have a question
> > about the length parameter.
> >
> > An lto-4 tape has a non-compress length of ~800GB and in compress about
> > double. I know these are max values.
> >
> > In you answer below you have length set to ~772GB. If I am going to run
> > in compress mode so should the length value be double or ~1.4TB.
> 
> You cannot double compress in normal practice.  Feeding a highly
> compressed
> file to the lightning fast compression methods used in tape drives will
> often result in the file growing larger by many percentage points.
> 
> Gzip can generally beat the tape drives at their own game, albeit at the
> expense of cpu time to do it right.
> 
> There are also pretty valid arguments against using the drives compression
> as it isolates the backup program, preventing it, regardless of the name
> of
> the program in question, from keeping track of how much of the tape has
> been used since the best the programs can do is count the bytes sent down
> the cable to the drive.  If the drive is massaging the data, shrinking or
> expending it, then the program has no real clue when the tape is full till
> the drive reports EOT.
> 
> Because of these considerations, it is pretty universal here that the
> recommendation is to turn off the drives compressor and let software
> methods do the data smunching.  Then amanda, or any another other program
> that does track the tape capacity, will then know how much of the tape has
> been used.
> 
> This can be very difficult to actually do for those tape formats, most of
> them, that record the compressor's state in a hidden header file we never
> see.  DDS is one such format where you will have to write a script that:
> 
> dd reads the first block of the tape out to a file, then
> mtx re-winds the tape, then
> mtx turns off the drives compressor, then
> dd re-writes the first block of the tape with the saved file
> 
> All without ejecting the tape or going through a tape recognition cycle as
> most drives do for a freshly inserted tape, and which would turn the
> compression back on despite your wishes.  Only a similar operation will
> actually turn it of for most drives today if it has ever been turned on
> and
> the tape written to.
> 
> You can of course ignore this advice Robert.
> 
> > Thanks
> >
> > Robert
> [...]
> 
> Cheers, gene
> --
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> 
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