As I stated in my "fait divers" in my reply on youness reply on the
original mail, you can't just put stuff "only in the context menus" as
these menus are only used by more advanced users.  This sounds kind of
silly to most of you I guess, but it's true.  Think about all our
mac-using friends who ddidn't have multi-buttons on apple-made mouses
before the "Mighty Mouse".  There is no problem with not having a
right-mouse-button as on PCs most users don't know what it stands for.


As it's crack, imo, to have yet ANOTHER menu, now there's already 5, I
placed "preferences", "plugins" and that one frequently used setting
inAccount as they all apply to that account.  An not to "only one
contact/group".   

Youness said "change skin" is often used so it should be in the menus.
Do you really think it is frequently used by novice users ?  As long as
it "Just Works (tm)" there's no need for them to find out how tro
customise.  If you want 'm to be able to customise their MSN client, do
it the microsoft way, with sharable backgrounds.  They seem stupid to
us, but this is a more discoverable way of customising for "normal"
users.  Still this only changes some aspect.  Changing all butons and
stuff is more drastic and it involves your brain having to re-recognise
all the icons and remember what action they're associated with.  I don't
think this is neededin the menus; especially having it there to be able
to have yet another menu sounds 'weird'.

"(19:10:10) uws: skin/appearance -> prefs" was also one of the first
remarks on my draft proposal as I did have it in there first.







Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 16:49 -0700, schreef Karol Krizka:
> On Friday 05 May 2006 12:20, Harry Vennik wrote:
> > > This is hte proposal:
> > >
> > > ===Account===
> > > Log in as ...
> > > Log in
> > > Log out
> > > ---
> > > Change Nickname ...
> > > My Status >
> > > ---
> > > Go to Inbox
> > > My profile
> > > ---
> > > view received files
> > > show events history
> > > ---
> > > Enable sounds
> > > Plugins
> > > Prefs
> > > ---
> > > Close
> >
> > - Okay, as said already, I'd add a last item named either 'Quit' or 'Exit'.
> > - Also I've got my doubts about the 'show events history' item. Further
> > down in this e-mail I'll tell why.
> > - 'Enable sounds', 'Plugins' and 'Preferences' should not be here... I'll
> > pick them up later.
without creating yet another menu, this is the best plac to put m
> >
> I agree with this too. The preferences is something I wouldn't normally 
> associate with an "account". Also it dosn't fit into any other menu and 
> creating a seperate menu for "settings" would be waste of space. Maybe change 
> the menu name to "aMSN"? But that might not fit very well with other items in 
> this menu...
The main  menu represents the "object" you operate on in the window.  1
mainwin is about one account so that's wht it's called this way.  
> 
> > > ===Actions===
> > > send a message
> > > send sms
> > > send email
> > > ---
> > > send file or foto
> > > send webcam
> > > ask to see webcam
> > >
> > >
> > > (Wanted to merge this with "Contacts" but it would make the menu
> > > too crowded and also plugins should still be able to add stuff here)
> >
> > I'd leave out this menu. the webcam things belong in the chatwindow only,
> > the rest can be in the context menu. Having them in a normal menu makes no
> > sense because you need to select a contact for any of those.
> >
> I totally agree. Eighter you click on the item here and look through a list 
> for the user you want to do the action to or you look at your contact list 
> and rightclick and select the action.

as I already said, these SHOULD be in the menus as otherwise it isn't
discoverable by a lot of ppl.
> 
> > > ===Contacts===
> > > add a contact ...
> > > remove a contact ...              - 1
> > > Contact properties                - 1
> > > ---
> > > New group
> > > Rename group                      - 4
> > > Remove group                      - 4
> > > ---
> > > view chat history                 - 1, 2
> > > view webcam sessions      - 1, 2
> > > ---
> > > save contactlist                  - 3
> > > load saved contactlist            - 3
> >
> > Okay, this could be cleaner.
> > I marked the menu items with the numbers of the remarks.
> >
> > 1. Here are also many items that apply to one specific contact, so it makes
> > no sense to keep them here. Just have them in the context menu.
> I agree with this too.
> 



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