Op vr, 05-05-2006 te 18:06 -0400, schreef Youness Alaoui:
> oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts it  
> in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but.. still  
> allow users to configure it as they want.. an additional 'Exit'.. humm..  
> I'm skeptical.. I would say maybe, but if yes, only at the condition of :
> instead of having :
> Close
> Exit
> have :
> Minimize to tray
> Exit


The official client whows a message on first use of this "feature"
though, which I still think is crack.

I'm now thinking of having 


...
---
Minimise to tray
Close


"Close", as the last action, should allways do the same, terminate the
application.  Having an  extra option for minimise might be ok and I
guess I'll add it though I'm not really a fan :).



> 
> or something like that to make sure the diff between both...
> 
> btw, while in the design, we should  think, right now, and with the  
> experts help on the accelerators we should have!!! bindings are lame,  
> ctrl-s, ctrl-d, and ctrl-p are the only ones I know.. I just realized that  
> the official client reacts ALOT to what I type in it (typing in the CL  
> will filter contacts, same as a search...) so we should define Ctrl-  
> Ctrl-Alt- Alt- bindings to something...
> KKRT

Keyboard-use is also very important for usability.  This is not only
important to advanced users, as soem ppl with speech-input systems and
other assistance technologies, can have ways to insert these commands
while they can't use a mouse.


> 
> On Fri, 05 May 2006 17:53:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:
> >
> >> > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences
> >> >  This is something only set once.  From usability point of view
> >> > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close
> >> > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in the
> >> > main menu.  Though, this is an often requested feature, so it should
> >> > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window.
> >>
> >> I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon should
> >> be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close in
> >> the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main
> >> window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item
> >> appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make the
> >> trayicon disappear too.
> >
> > No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference
> > between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any applications.
> > Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the program's
> > main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake! Yes it
> > is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the  
> > icon
> > down right, or the window in the taskbar? Then why shouldn't the Close
> > button just close it and keep it in the taskbar (ie, minimized)? It's  
> > like
> > this in every program that I've seen, apart from some IMs which insist on
> > laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you can't, I want to stay
> > open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is that it obeyed to  
> > the
> > normal rule. Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too, I'm
> > even capable of placing a veto here. Really.
> >
> >
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