Op vrijdag 5 mei 2006 23:53, schreef Vivia Nikolaidou: > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote: > > > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences > > > This is something only set once. From usability point of view > > > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close > > > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in the > > > main menu. Though, this is an often requested feature, so it should > > > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window. > > > > I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon should > > be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close in > > the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main > > window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item > > appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make the > > trayicon disappear too. > > No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference > between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any applications. You're not using KDE I guess???
In KDE an item called 'Close' will always close only a window (or if there is only 1 window for the instance of the app, just the document), and a 'Quit' will close the app. > Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the program's > main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake! Yes it > is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the icon > down right, or the window in the taskbar? No, because I'll get really annoyed (and so will many other users) if clicking the close button will terminate aMSN!!! I want it to be always running, and when I close the window, I do so to get rid of that window, and no more than that. > Then why shouldn't the Close button just close it and keep it in the taskbar > (ie, minimized)? It's like this in every program that I've seen, apart from > some IMs which insist on laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you > can't, I want to stay open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is > that it obeyed to the normal rule. Clicking the Minimize button will keep the window open, and just hide it, and it will keep taking space on the taskbar for example. Clicking close should really close the window (it really isn't there anymore, so it won't be on the taskbar either), but still not hurt the trayicon. Those IMs you're talking about can still be terminated by right-clicking the trayicon and choosing quit. Most, I think all, apps that have a tray icon will not terminate on closing the window, but stay stand-by in the tray. > Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too, I'm even capable of > placing a veto here. Really. No, I don't think so. ;-) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Amsn-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Amsn-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
