2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Heey, > so much speaking without me :'( > Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? > Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many > people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN > if HIG would say that I would be totally against.
The HIG doesn't state "file transfer managers should be in the main window"; it was just a choice to remove clutter. A lot of usability guidelines say you shouldn't open too much individual windows though. > By the way, HIG as > some really strange ideas about notification icons... They declare 'm as "notification icons", instead of how it is used mostly in windows: as a solution to the taskbar being too small for all windows (which is a design flaw of the taskbar, so the taskbar should be changed instead of using the notification tray as a taskbar2) >And I hate Gnome > :p (no j/k : I dislike it (piuuh I almost threw a troll on the ML :d) ) :D > Anyway, about putting it in the same window that the discussion, I think > that's a good idea : that let us always see the FT state but... I think > it takes its place in the window (imagine my CW with no DPs : I want to > maximum for the discussion because that's the aim of this window) > Putting FTs embedded in the output text area is for me silly as we loose > it too easily and I agree with many of you when you say that's a dl > manager hasn't its place in aMSN (Youness please stop with Opera : as > soon as a soft is closed source, it is EVIL :p) > Browser have a dl manager because a user (you for example) downloads > various things but it's always bound to your interests or sth like that. > With IM, the FT is more bound to a user (there is context : you > receive/send this file because you speak about sth precise with your > contact). > I still wonder how we could melt such a list in the chat window without > any repacking (repacking is always ugly and all the window flicker :s) > But if we find how to put this list, I would be to put FT requests also > in it : like that, you can easily accept a past FT and that put every FT > related things in the same place. Many therefor it's also easier to put it on the right underneath the DP's of your contact(s) as it would take more lines) About the need for a "manager" to find files that were sent to you in the past: why not incoporate it in the chat history ? the transfer took place in a chat .. so if you want to find it again, you can search that chat by date/contact and if we have it possible to put (inside the chathistory) some interactive lines (an "open file" and "open dir" and "remove file" link, that is inactive if the file doesn't exist anymore) ... ideas ? > Phil > PS I will try to avoid looong mails like Youness ones. He would beat me > too easily :d > > Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > that's the point of the brainstorming :) > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:53:38PM +0200, NoWhereMan wrote: > >> Karel Demeyer wrote: > >> > >>> Again, I'd like the question(s) to rise: Do we really need an "FT > >>> manager"? Isn't this a bit over-engineering ? Is it needed for an IM > >>> program where file transfers are a nice feature but not the main > >>> activity ? Do you think our users will transfer so many files at once > >>> they need a manager because they can't manage 'm themselves ? > >> I just don't like progress bars floating around...that's all > >> > >> it's true that file manager does have progress dialogs, but this is a - > >> erm - IM program, does really an IM program need a dialog progress bar? > >> *cough* :D > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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