This is NO DIFFERENT than a desktop computer.  The person owns the device.
Ultimately they will be able to do with it what they want, whether or not
you try to prevent them.  And if a person jailbreaks an iPhone?  Same
thing.  I don't really understand why this is so traumatic, this is just
reality.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Carmen Delessio
<carmendeles...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Based on this, is your perspective that Andrei is correct that "basically
> storing private data on the phone is actually impossible?"
>
> My goal is not even store the data, but to have one time access for the
> application to a secure piece of data.
>
> The suggestion about being careful about where to put the encryption key, "
> get it over the network, only keep it in RAM, never let it be written to
> storage," does not seem to address decompiling the .dex file.   The key
> would be put into RAM by the program that can be decompiled.
>
> I am not typically a paranoid regarding security, but this seems like it
> should be a legitimate concern.  I'd like to be wrong about that.  If this
> is a theoretical, but unlikely scenario that would be great.
>
> Carmen
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Yusuf Saib (T-Mobile USA) <
> yusuf.s...@t-mobile.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> You say that like it's a bad thing. Re-discovery worked well enough
>> for Columbus.
>>
>>
>> Yusuf Saib
>> Android
>> ·T· · ·Mobile· stick together
>> The views, opinions and statements in this email are those of the
>> author solely in their individual capacity, and do not necessarily
>> represent those of T-Mobile USA, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 9:11 am, Chris Stratton <cs07...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sep 15, 10:38 am, Carmen Delessio <carmendeles...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I want
>> > > to get a handle on implementing security in an enviroment where:
>> >
>> > > 1. Developers can have a rooted phone
>> > > 2. Developers can decompile your code
>> >
>> > You have just re-discovered why security in a network environment
>> > starts with the premise that a server cannot trust a  client
>> > computer,
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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Android framework engineer
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