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Sorry, Rolf, I won't have it.

According to you, 'real' Soviet socialism ended in 1953.

According to the Trots, 'real' Soviet socialism ended in 1924.

And according to WSM cranks, it never existed at all.

All you guys are doing is playing the utopian nihilist game with minor
variations.

It's boring.

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Barry Stoller
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews



Rolf Martens wrote:

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> At 06:58 2001-12-06 -0500, Barry Stoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> >AFP. 5 December 2001. Russia's dashed hopes.
> >
> >MOSCOW -- At a glance Russia has made remarkable progress in the 10
> >years since the Soviet Union officially ceased to exist...
>
> Your subject line should have been "40 years on...", Barry!
> The former socialism in the Soviet Union was not overthrown
> in 1991, of course, but in the late 50s / early 60s, and
> social-imperialism, one kind of that impossible capitalism too,
> established there. This it's important to see, in order fully to
> understand the causes of the present disaster. One of them
> was that typically imperialist war against Afghanistan, for
> instance, 1979-1989.
>
> One very good article on that overthrow is the Chinese one
> from 1964: "On Khrushchov's Phoney Communism and Its
> Historical Lessons for the World". It can be found on David
> Romagnolo's excellent site "Marx to Mao" at www.marx2mao.org.
>
> Also for other reasons it's important today to see the difference
> between actual and phony socialism.
>
> Rolf M.
>

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