Yes, and just hope you *can* become that person who does the job. Hope you don't get in over your head!
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:40 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? ** I heard an excellent quote the other day. I don't remember the exact wording, but I'll try not to mangle it too horribly: "Take the job, then become the person who does that job." Think of it as boundless OPPORTUNITIES for career growth! Jennifer Meyer **snicker** ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:53 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? Well, I don't mind all-inclusive so much, as it gives employers the ability to estimate budget impact. Its expecting that $70/hr will pay a reasonable rate to the contractor after those expenses are covered. Not that it is a very good rate by itself. And they wonder why some of those stay open for so long? You get what you pay for. Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any TWO. Rick ________________________________ From: "Thomas J. Mutaffis" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:37:08 -0400 To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? Exactly Rick. In the past 5 or 6 years two things have happened. First you need to be qualified in two to five skills sets or what might be "stand-alone" skills and the horrible word "all-inclusive." I do wonder how the folks here deal with the "all-inclusive" aspect? For me it's almost not worth looking for anything that is not local. If travel and lodging is required you must go on the high side to financially protect yourself against price increases, travel during holidays or other situations that could effect all aspects of travel. One could easily find themselves working for $25 to $45 an hour on a $70/hr rate and calculated travel cost to increase this to something like $95 - $105 if you don't protect yourself against the things causing blips in travel expense. Hence you need to average in a certain amount after doing your research regarding renting a car, hotel, cheap food and airfare. However, if you do this you've immediately put yourself out of the game. I typically tell recruiters using this method to find someone local since it's nearly impossible to be competitive. So how do you folks handle the "all-inclusive" aspect when you know that travel will be involved with a contract your considering? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Cook <mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com> Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? ** That's nothing. Look at the open positions on Monster wanting someone who is both a Remedy guru AND Java/Perl scripting SDE. For $70/hr on contract. Look up delusional in the dictionary and you will see that req listed. Rick ________________________________ From: "Thomas J. Mutaffis" Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:13:34 -0400 To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? Here's one for all of you to figure out. What are they actually seeking in whom they hire? Maybe superman? Minimum Required Skills: remedy, BMC Remedy, ITSM, BMDS, C2BMC, ITIL, sql server, sql, database development, Missile Defense, SME, Subject Matter Expert, Secret Clearance, DOD, TS/SCI, TS, SC, Remedy Engineer, Remedy Programmer, Remedy Developer, Software Engineer, Database Engineer, Database Developer Here is the reward for being the requirement for about 4 or 5 people. Location..: Washington, DC Tax Term: FULLTIME Payrate...: $100,000 - $140,000 Length....: Full-time, Employee Confusing? "Meyer, Jennifer L" <jennifer.me...@its.nc.gov> wrote in message news:2463ce9eee8c19409070f859f8f46fe53c5f06f...@ncwitmxmbev36.ad.ncmail. .. That's ok, Shawn. I'm asking because I'm genuinely confused and trying to figure it out. Jennifer Meyer -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:38 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? Actually I see things in the reverse of how you stated them as well. Having worked professionally doing system administration work as well as software development (including but not limited to ARS) I see system administrators and DBAs being more easily replaceable than software developers. Sure, developers may not always have root/Administrator access, but their job is much more complex than performing administration duties. You can also look at it from the amount of damage a person can do. If you are an incompetent system administrator, your system might run slowly or even crash and have to be replaced. If you are an incompetent developer, your bad code could affect a company for the five years or so that your app is used, and even beyond if the data is migrated into the application that replaces yours. Of course, a good system administrator is capable of doing some coding, and a good developer is knowledgeable of hardware, DB, and OS limitations. You can't master either role if you stay within strict confines of your job description. Shawn Pierson -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:49 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: What's the difference between a Remedy Administrator and a Remedy Developer? So would it be accurate to understand from the majority of your responses that in Remedy, the terms "administrator" and "developer" are bass-ackward from the rest of the IT world in that a Remedy administrator handles data configuration in the user tool, whereas a Remedy developer is responsible for application performance, maintenance, and improvements? As I understand the rest of the IT world, Administrators have Root, and therefore god-like powers, whereas developers are just a bunch of code-monkeys who will be replaced by a fresh college graduate the moment management deems their salaries are too high. If my summary above is correct, there are a lot of hiring managers out there that are confused. Since my job duties have always included everything from server build and application installation to user training and my title has always been "Remedy Administrator" Jr, Sr, Consultant, etc..., I think we need a better system. 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