Stakeholders have to be more than just shareholders, IMHO.  This applies to
the community, environment, employees, customers, shareholders, and so on.
 I don't think the status quo reinforces this whole notion.  Quiet the
opposite, in fact.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ** Pay the people who do good work, appropriately and do not undercut with
> inexperienced cheap sweat shop to make your 90 day quota numbers..
>
> IF you live by numbers you exclude people.. if you exclude people you
> disenfranchise customers, if you disenfranchise customers you loose
> credibility and integrity, if you loose integrity and credibility you will
> disappear or will be absorbed by someone else or even fall into corruption.
>
> IMHO
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM, John Doe <hornetl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Oh Matt......
>>
>> Your intentions are good, I appreciate that. Unfortunately I have watched
>> our premier support tank this year.  Cases are now taking 6 months to
>> resolve instead of weeks.  We are constantly getting the runaround. No
>> updates take place until the morning before our conference call.  They are
>> so busy they can't concentrate on any one case from any one company. Our
>> premier support has been taken off our cases to cover "higher" grossing
>> customer's cases.   It's an instance of being spread too thin.  Folks who
>> have been around premier support engineering (not managers, but actual
>> engineers with lots of Remedy problems daily) for a while and have a
>> barometer understand.  BMC is growing and I understand that.  It's just
>> unfortunate the engineers have to suffer.  Engineering is not sales and
>> cannot be managed the same.  Familiarity does not equal experience.
>>
>> Premier support has such a large umbrella. All of us agree with that.
>> Hiring engineers into that umbrella that do not have the proper experience
>> and then cross training them is one thing. But turning them loose to support
>> a customer and give troubleshooting advice for modules they are not very
>> familiar with is really a hard thing to understand. It's almost as if they
>> are learning as we go.   I can understand this from a non-technical
>> perspective.  But we are dealing with very technical stuff here.
>>
>> It just seems to me and I mean this very respectfully, Premier Support is
>> being staffed similar to a Help Desk now.  The problem with this is
>> obvious.  I mean nothing bad to the engineers because they are trying and
>> giving their best.  It's just an unfortunate circumstance due to growth and
>> unexpected demand.  Which is good.......for sales.  But that has to be
>> shored up on the back-end with engineers.
>>
>> What you are starting to see is there just isn't that much Remedy (BMC
>> products as a whole) engineering experience out there.  You cannot
>> manufacture that in a week or two. Especially, with the new and innovative
>> products BMC is pioneering.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:27 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Atrium SSO and CAC Authentication
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Are you volunteering to be our "BMC Support expediter" ?
>> Beware of what you are getting into ;-)
>>
>> Guillaume
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]
>> on behalf of Matt Laurenceau [matt.laurenc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:32 PM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Atrium SSO and CAC Authentication
>>
>> Thanks for the heads-up.
>>
>> What do you mean by "BMC support are quite lacking." ? (let's fix this :)
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>>
>> Matt Laurenceau
>> Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities
>> matthieu_laurenc...@bmc.com
>> Follow me @Matt_L
>> Skype: matt.laurenceau
>>
>>
>> On 12 oct. 2011, at 21:00, Mike Ziniti <versi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Has anyone successfully implemented Atrium SSO using CAC authentication?
>> If
>> > so I'm looking for some help on how to correctly set it up since the
>> > documentation and BMC support are quite lacking.
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
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