harshest punishment is 8 years....how much money did he walk away
with?....I dunno...if I could walk away with enough money....I'm not sure
if I would consider the punishment worth it or not.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Sentences ---- this is the most important part of those days !!!
>
>    - Stephen Gardner (former Peregrine CEO): 97 months in custody at the 
> Federal
>    Medical Center, 
> Devens<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Medical_Center,_Devens>
>    .[15] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-15>
>    - Douglas Powanda (former Peregrine Executive Vice President for World
>    Wide Sales): 78 months in custody at the Federal Correctional
>    Institution, 
> Bastrop<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Bastrop>
>    ,[16] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-16>followed by two 
> years of supervised release.
>    [17] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-17>
>    - Matthew Gless (former Peregrine CFO): 63 months in custody followed
>    by two years of supervised 
> release.[18]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-18>
>    - Jeremy Crook (former Peregrine General Manager for Europe): 27
>    months in 
> custody.[19]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-19>
>    - Andrew V. Cahill, Jr. (former Peregrine Executive Vice President for
>    World Wide Sales, after Powanda): 22 months in custody followed by two
>    years of supervised 
> release.[20]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-20>Released
>  from prison on October 22, 2010.
>    [21] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-21>
>    - Berd J Rassam (former Peregrine Controller): 19 months in custody
>    followed by two years of supervised 
> release.[22]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-22>
>    - Larry Rodda (former managing director of KPMG 
> Consulting<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BearingPoint>):
>    Six months in custody, six months of home detention, two years of
>    supervised release and $100 mandatory special 
> assessment.[23]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-23>
>    - Richard Nelson (former Peregrine Corporate Counsel): One day in
>    custody, six months home detention and 200 hours of community service.[
>    24] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-24>
>    - Ilse Cappel (former Peregrine Assistant Treasurer): Five years of
>    probation 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probation>.[25]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-25>
>    - John Burnham Benjamin (former Peregrine Treasurer): Five years of
>    probation.[26]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-26>
>    - Steven Spitzer (former head of Peregrine's Alliance Sales Program):
>    Three years probation, a $5,000 fine and 200 hours of community service
>    plus a $110,000 civil penalty and barred from serving as an officer or
>    director of any public 
> company.[27]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-27>
>    - Gary Lenz (former Peregrine President & COO): Three years of
>    probation 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probation>.[28]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-28>
>    - Peter O'Brien (former Peregrine Director of Alliances): One year of
>    probation.[29]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-29>
>    - Michael Whitt (owner of Barnhill Management Group): Civil penalty of
>    $60,000.[30]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems#cite_note-30>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Stanley Feinstein <
> st...@projectremedies.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> As I remember it, Peregrine bought Remedy for the cash.  They had cooked
>> the books for just about the same amount of cash that Remedy had in the
>> bank.   I remember the discussions about why they bought it, this or that,
>> but when the numbers came out, cash was the reason.  “Follow the cash”
>> seems to be a good rule to follow these days.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2013 10:00 AM
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** ****
>>
>> I remember that day at  RUG ::  I was standing next to rick cook, and he
>> said they got bought out.. and I said who is that *Stephen* Gardner,
>> guy  -- he said that guy over there is running Peregrine, and I said --
>> Who? Him?,  he said yeah.. why -- I said .. he is a Crook, and a lair I can
>> see it in his face!  Rick just looked a little bewildered  after  what I
>> said.. It was a sad sad day !   I really am hoping we are going into another
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM, arslist <arsl...@danielbloom.ca> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> ** ****
>>
>> Peregrine bought the company, I guess they don’t exist anymore so I can’t
>> be sued, to destroy it. It was competition they wanted eliminated, IMHO
>> based on their actions and the words at the Peregrine Synergy conference I
>> attended in 2002.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Whilst this current buyout looks less sinister in those terms, we of
>> course need to wait to see how it all plays out. There is some talk that it
>> will split off the mainframe from the rest, but I haven’t heard any rumours
>> about what they want to do with both pieces. I think the Remedy brand and
>> the ITSM product are too valuable for anyone to want to eliminate them,
>> other than Service-Now, and I don’t think they have the financial resources
>> to buy it.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> WWRUG13 is getting more and more interesting J****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> [Oracle World is the Week before, lol].****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Daniel****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *William Rentfrow
>> *Sent:* May 6, 2013 10:10 AM****
>>
>>
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ** ****
>>
>> I have $1 on this being "Peregrine 2.0".****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *laurent
>> matheo
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2013 8:37 AM
>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> ** ****
>>
>> I just hope some guys I know at BMC will be ok after the buyout...
>> This could good or this could be a disaster...****
>>
>>
>> On 06 May, 2013,at 03:32 PM, Sylvain YVON <sylvain.y...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> ******
>>
>>
>> https://communities.bmc.com/people/mstouse/blog/2013/05/06/bmc-software-writes-a-new-line-of-code-today?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> ******
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/bmc_buyout/****
>>
>> Buyout soon... ****
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Zandi****
>>
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