You forgot to mention that the Dallas Cowboys win their second playoff game in 
20 years in 2017, but still lose their next game after that to continue their 
22 years of missing the Super Bowl. So much for American’s team. LOL

Christopher Pruitt


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 2:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

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John

You forgot the cubs in 2017 win it all.

Hbr

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On May 6, 2013, at 2:37 PM, John Sundberg 
<john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> wrote:
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, John Sundberg 
<john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>>

wrote:





        ** It is a little hard to say what "version" it was....



        Because in 2012 -- BMC renamed it all to BMC Atrium ... threw in the

kitchen sink -- which included the Remedy product and the ITSM Suite + some

discovery software + a CMDB...



        But in 2014 Oracle broke it all up -- and peeled off the ITSM software

into something they called "Oracle Service Support" .... (And the concept of a

development admin tool went away) -- it is purely configuration and consulting

to configure the product...

        (Traditional Remedy customer are unhappy - new customers don't know

better - think they are eating a juicy steak - turns out it is pink slime)



        RemedyForce was taken over by Business.com<http://Business.com> (aka 
Salesforce.com<http://Salesforce.com>).



        RemedyOnDemand - still exists -- but is part of "Oracle Scalable

Enterprise" - which everybody calls "Oh say ... can you see" -- because nobody

can actually see it working... kind of a weird industry joke... (Still not sure

about it -- I think 2021 humor goes over my head)



        Same timeframe -- Oracle renamed Remedy to "Oracle Enable" ... and it

became really the "adhoc" business "back-office" apps generator....



        SRM was abandoned by Oracle -- really BMC killed it before Oracle got

it (circa 2011) - BMC just never told the customers.



        Of course Kinetic Data stayed independent and front-ends both Oracle

Service Support and the Enable framework - keeping customers happy - regardless

of the shenanigans behind the scenes...



        BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :(



        Obama gets reelected.

        Republican gets elected 2016 -- does a fair job - but chooses not to

rerun.

        Hillary gets 2020.



        And that is all I know...





        -John

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Howard Richter 
<hbr4...@gmail.com<mailto:hbr4...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Yep and that is what Bain will sell first to pay for this deal.
Maybe they will sell Remedy to Oracle and then BMC will license it back for 
ITSM.

Hbr

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On May 6, 2013, at 1:43 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com<mailto:lm...@me.com>> 
wrote:
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Humm isn't mainframe the most profitable part of BMC?

On 06 May, 2013,at 07:33 PM, patchsk 
<vamsi...@gmail.com<mailto:vamsi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
** We can never know how the forces end up playing the cards. After all the 
links between ServiceNow and Remedy/BMC are not very distant.

ServiceNow is a 
software-as-a-service<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service> 
(SaaS) provider of IT service 
management<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IT_service_management> (ITSM) software. 
It was founded in 2003 by Fred 
Luddy<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fred_Luddy&action=edit&redlink=1>,
 the previous CTO of Peregrine 
Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems> and Remedy 
Corporation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remedy_Corporation>.
The M in BMC John Jay Moores -- He founded BMC 
Software<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMC_Software> in 
Texas<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas> in 1980 and was the lead venture 
capital financier for Peregrine 
Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems> in California starting 
in 1981 as well as ServiceNow<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow> another 
California corporation founded in 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_(baseball)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow


On Monday, May 6, 2013 9:46:58 AM UTC-7, arslist wrote:
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Peregrine bought the company, I guess they don’t exist anymore so I can’t be 
sued, to destroy it. It was competition they wanted eliminated, IMHO based on 
their actions and the words at the Peregrine Synergy conference I attended in 
2002.

Whilst this current buyout looks less sinister in those terms, we of course 
need to wait to see how it all plays out. There is some talk that it will split 
off the mainframe from the rest, but I haven’t heard any rumours about what 
they want to do with both pieces. I think the Remedy brand and the ITSM product 
are too valuable for anyone to want to eliminate them, other than Service-Now, 
and I don’t think they have the financial resources to buy it.

WWRUG13 is getting more and more interesting ☺

[Oracle World is the Week before, lol].

Daniel

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow
Sent: May 6, 2013 10:10 AM
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I have $1 on this being "Peregrine 2.0".

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] 
On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:37 AM
To: ars...@arslist.org<mailto:ars...@arslist.org>
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I just hope some guys I know at BMC will be ok after the buyout...
This could good or this could be a disaster...

On 06 May, 2013,at 03:32 PM, Sylvain YVON 
<sylvai...@gmail.com<mailto:sylvai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
https://communities.bmc.com/people/mstouse/blog/2013/05/06/bmc-software-writes-a-new-line-of-code-today?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, patrick zandi 
<reme...@gmail.com<mailto:reme...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/bmc_buyout/
Buyout soon...
--
Patrick Zandi
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