John

You forgot the cubs in 2017 win it all.

Hbr

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On May 6, 2013, at 2:37 PM, John Sundberg <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote:

> **
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, John Sundberg 
> <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>         ** It is a little hard to say what "version" it was....
> 
>         Because in 2012 -- BMC renamed it all to BMC Atrium ... threw in the 
> kitchen sink -- which included the Remedy product and the ITSM Suite + some 
> discovery software + a CMDB...
> 
>         But in 2014 Oracle broke it all up -- and peeled off the ITSM 
> software 
> into something they called "Oracle Service Support" .... (And the concept of 
> a 
> development admin tool went away) -- it is purely configuration and 
> consulting 
> to configure the product...
>         (Traditional Remedy customer are unhappy - new customers don't know 
> better - think they are eating a juicy steak - turns out it is pink slime)
> 
>         RemedyForce was taken over by Business.com (aka Salesforce.com).
> 
>         RemedyOnDemand - still exists -- but is part of "Oracle Scalable 
> Enterprise" - which everybody calls "Oh say ... can you see" -- because 
> nobody 
> can actually see it working... kind of a weird industry joke... (Still not 
> sure 
> about it -- I think 2021 humor goes over my head)
> 
>         Same timeframe -- Oracle renamed Remedy to "Oracle Enable" ... and it 
> became really the "adhoc" business "back-office" apps generator....
> 
>         SRM was abandoned by Oracle -- really BMC killed it before Oracle got 
> it (circa 2011) - BMC just never told the customers.
> 
>         Of course Kinetic Data stayed independent and front-ends both Oracle 
> Service Support and the Enable framework - keeping customers happy - 
> regardless 
> of the shenanigans behind the scenes...
> 
>         BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :(
> 
>         Obama gets reelected.
>         Republican gets elected 2016 -- does a fair job - but chooses not to 
> rerun.
>         Hillary gets 2020.
> 
>         And that is all I know...
>         
> 
>         -John
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Howard Richter <hbr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> **
>> Yep and that is what Bain will sell first to pay for this deal.
>> Maybe they will sell Remedy to Oracle and then BMC will license it back for 
>> ITSM.
>> 
>> Hbr
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>> 
>> On May 6, 2013, at 1:43 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> **
>>> Humm isn't mainframe the most profitable part of BMC?
>>> 
>>> On 06 May, 2013,at 07:33 PM, patchsk <vamsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ** We can never know how the forces end up playing the cards. After all 
>>>> the links between ServiceNow and Remedy/BMC are not very distant.
>>>> 
>>>> ServiceNow is a software-as-a-service (SaaS) provider of IT service 
>>>> management (ITSM) software. It was founded in 2003 by Fred Luddy, the 
>>>> previous CTO of Peregrine Systems and Remedy Corporation.
>>>> The M in BMC John Jay Moores -- He founded BMC Software in Texas in 1980 
>>>> and was the lead venture capital financier for Peregrine Systems in 
>>>> California starting in 1981 as well as ServiceNow another California 
>>>> corporation founded in 2005.
>>>> 
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_(baseball)
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, May 6, 2013 9:46:58 AM UTC-7, arslist wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> Peregrine bought the company, I guess they don’t exist anymore so I can’t 
>>>>> be sued, to destroy it. It was competition they wanted eliminated, IMHO 
>>>>> based on their actions and the words at the Peregrine Synergy conference 
>>>>> I attended in 2002.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whilst this current buyout looks less sinister in those terms, we of 
>>>>> course need to wait to see how it all plays out. There is some talk that 
>>>>> it will split off the mainframe from the rest, but I haven’t heard any 
>>>>> rumours about what they want to do with both pieces. I think the Remedy 
>>>>> brand and the ITSM product are too valuable for anyone to want to 
>>>>> eliminate them, other than Service-Now, and I don’t think they have the 
>>>>> financial resources to buy it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> WWRUG13 is getting more and more interesting J
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Oracle World is the Week before, lol].
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>>>> [mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow
>>>>> Sent: May 6, 2013 10:10 AM
>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have $1 on this being "Peregrine 2.0".
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
>>>>> [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:37 AM
>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just hope some guys I know at BMC will be ok after the buyout...
>>>>> This could good or this could be a disaster...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 06 May, 2013,at 03:32 PM, Sylvain YVON <sylvai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://communities.bmc.com/people/mstouse/blog/2013/05/06/bmc-software-writes-a-new-line-of-code-today?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, patrick zandi <reme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> **
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/bmc_buyout/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Buyout soon... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Patrick Zandi
>>>>> 
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> 
> 
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> John Sundberg
> 
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