That reminds me, I have to stop by Guitar Center to buy a new snare drum...


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Steve Kallestad <st...@tabtonic.com> wrote:

> **
> > BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :(
>
> That's just mean spirited.
>
> =======
> We've all been through this before. Some things will happen that we don't
> like beyond our control, but in the end the technology we all use and the
> industry we're all a part of will be just fine.
>
> You never know, this could be a very good thing that expands market share
> and increases the size of our community. Bain is Guitar Center, Gymboree,
> Staples, Clear Channel, Dominoes Pizza, Dunkin' Donuts, Toys R Us, and
> Sports Authority. Those are all pretty much household names. It's not such
> a bad thing to have the Action Request System on the same list.
>
> --Steve
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, John Sundberg <
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM, John Sundberg 
>> <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         ** It is a little hard to say what "version" it was....
>>
>>         Because in 2012 -- BMC renamed it all to BMC Atrium ... threw in the
>> kitchen sink -- which included the Remedy product and the ITSM Suite + some
>> discovery software + a CMDB...
>>
>>         But in 2014 Oracle broke it all up -- and peeled off the ITSM 
>> software
>> into something they called "Oracle Service Support" .... (And the concept of 
>> a
>> development admin tool went away) -- it is purely configuration and 
>> consulting
>> to configure the product...
>>         (Traditional Remedy customer are unhappy - new customers don't know
>> better - think they are eating a juicy steak - turns out it is pink slime)
>>
>>         RemedyForce was taken over by Business.com (aka Salesforce.com).
>>
>>         RemedyOnDemand - still exists -- but is part of "Oracle Scalable
>> Enterprise" - which everybody calls "Oh say ... can you see" -- because 
>> nobody
>> can actually see it working... kind of a weird industry joke... (Still not 
>> sure
>> about it -- I think 2021 humor goes over my head)
>>
>>         Same timeframe -- Oracle renamed Remedy to "Oracle Enable" ... and it
>> became really the "adhoc" business "back-office" apps generator....
>>
>>         SRM was abandoned by Oracle -- really BMC killed it before Oracle got
>> it (circa 2011) - BMC just never told the customers.
>>
>>         Of course Kinetic Data stayed independent and front-ends both Oracle
>> Service Support and the Enable framework - keeping customers happy - 
>> regardless
>> of the shenanigans behind the scenes...
>>
>>         BTW - the MN Vikings still are without a Superbowl in 2021 :(
>>
>>         Obama gets reelected.
>>         Republican gets elected 2016 -- does a fair job - but chooses not to
>> rerun.
>>         Hillary gets 2020.
>>
>>         And that is all I know...
>>
>>
>>         -John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Howard Richter <hbr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Yep and that is what Bain will sell first to pay for this deal.
>>> Maybe they will sell Remedy to Oracle and then BMC will license it back
>>> for ITSM.
>>>
>>> Hbr
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2013, at 1:43 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> **
>>> Humm isn't mainframe the most profitable part of BMC?
>>>
>>> On 06 May, 2013,at 07:33 PM, patchsk <vamsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ** We can never know how the forces end up playing the cards. After all
>>> the links between ServiceNow and Remedy/BMC are not very distant.
>>>
>>> ServiceNow is a 
>>> software-as-a-service<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_as_a_service> 
>>> (SaaS)
>>> provider of IT service 
>>> management<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IT_service_management> (ITSM)
>>> software. It was founded in 2003 by Fred 
>>> Luddy<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fred_Luddy&action=edit&redlink=1>,
>>> the previous CTO of Peregrine 
>>> Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems>
>>>  and Remedy Corporation<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remedy_Corporation>
>>> .
>>> The M in BMC John Jay Moores *-- *He founded BMC 
>>> Software<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMC_Software>
>>>  in Texas <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas> in 1980 and was the lead
>>> venture capital financier for Peregrine 
>>> Systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Systems> in
>>> California starting in 1981 as well as 
>>> ServiceNow<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow> another
>>> California corporation founded in 2005.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moores_(baseball)
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ServiceNow
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2013 9:46:58 AM UTC-7, arslist wrote:
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> Peregrine bought the company, I guess they don’t exist anymore so I
>>>> can’t be sued, to destroy it. It was competition they wanted eliminated,
>>>> IMHO based on their actions and the words at the Peregrine Synergy
>>>> conference I attended in 2002.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whilst this current buyout looks less sinister in those terms, we of
>>>> course need to wait to see how it all plays out. There is some talk that it
>>>> will split off the mainframe from the rest, but I haven’t heard any rumours
>>>> about what they want to do with both pieces. I think the Remedy brand and
>>>> the ITSM product are too valuable for anyone to want to eliminate them,
>>>> other than Service-Now, and I don’t think they have the financial resources
>>>> to buy it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WWRUG13 is getting more and more interesting J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Oracle World is the Week before, lol].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>>> ars...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *William Rentfrow
>>>> *Sent:* May 6, 2013 10:10 AM
>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> I have $1 on this being "Peregrine 2.0".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
>>>> mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *laurent matheo
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2013 8:37 AM
>>>> *To:* ars...@arslist.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> I just hope some guys I know at BMC will be ok after the buyout...
>>>> This could good or this could be a disaster...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06 May, 2013,at 03:32 PM, Sylvain YVON <sylvai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://communities.bmc.com/people/mstouse/blog/2013/05/06/bmc-software-writes-a-new-line-of-code-today?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, patrick zandi <reme...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/06/bmc_buyout/
>>>>
>>>> Buyout soon...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Patrick Zandi
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *John Sundberg*
>> Kinetic Data, Inc.
>> "Your Business. Your Process."
>>
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