--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
Same guy he was working for the NJEA
Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher?
>
> If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. Every monday
> morning he played a tape of the previous night's "60 minutes."
Talk
> about a liberal! He made no bones about it that he was a
socialist.
> How much of that was bait to get me going I don't know, but I spent
> a whole year debating with him. He'd probably get in trouble with
> Sean Hannity for doing that in class today, but I recollect that he
> wasn't preachy about it - he got us talking. Very inspiring to make
> us defend our point of view. He ran a great class.
>
> Good guy. Is he sill around?
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine
is
> > lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore
> nor
> > should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around
> and
> > get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the
> > commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this
> game
> > but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis
and
> it
> > seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure
Frank
> D.
> > can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way
why
> > didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to
> Lewis?
> > Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have
> > destroyed that contract.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity.
> > > > However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is
> > > based
> > > > on all of the names you provided last night.
> > > >
> > > > As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight,
as
> I
> > > > came from that field before becoming a teacher.
> > > >
> > > > First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once
> > > before.
> > > > Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the
SHBP,
> > > while
> > > > Karl Crudup was President. This "change" to BCBS came with
> the
> > > fact
> > > > that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You
> are
> > > > definitely right. This would have saved the BOE
approximately
> > 12%
> > > > the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in
> > > > favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone
> up
> > > > drastically to the point that the savings were now a major
> loss
> > to
> > > > the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a
> broker
> > > was
> > > > and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you
> are
> > > > out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a
> 10%
> > > > fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly
> $700,000.
> > > > There is your 600K in savings minus 100K.
> > > >
> > > > Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really
> > don't
> > > > need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is
> > > history,
> > > > only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also
> > point
> > > > out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in
another
> > > > school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a
> kickback
> > > > with the 700K in commission?
> > > >
> > > > Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think
> they
> > > > left out some major details. I would have no problem
> switching
> > > > insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if
> the
> > > > coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer,
> and a
> > > > rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only
> > cost
> > > > you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my
> > > > negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost
> of
> > > > insurance under this so called "savings", would be impossible
> to
> > > > keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again.
> > > >
> > > > Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the
> > > insurance
> > > > being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically
> the
> > > > correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote
> and
> > > I
> > > > really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I
> think
> > he
> > > > should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he
> > > does.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this answers your questions. I think the "source"
> should
> > > > give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want,
> you
> > > can
> > > > reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I
> am
> > > > easily accessible, as you know who I am.
> > > >
> > > > Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> > > > <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1" <apeaexec1@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell
> you
> > > to
> > > > > join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union.
We
> > > > should
> > > > > be honored to have the President of the teachers union in
> this
> > > > group.
> > > > > So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins.
companies?
> > > Some
> > > > > people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via
> > Frank
> > > > D.
> > > > > You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and
> you
> > > > would
> > > > > have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you
facing?
> 20-
> > > 30-
> > > > > 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff
and
> > > > Teachers
> > > > > not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from
> this
> > > > > group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just
> for
> > > the
> > > > > record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Who am I?
> > > > > Let's just say a family member is in your union.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by
and
> > > learn
> > > > a
> > > > > > few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In
> > > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apeaexec1"
> <apeaexec1@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Johnny boy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here.
> It's a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > > thing I know most of these names.--- In
> > > > > > > > AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of
> knowing
> > > who
> > > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > without me knowing who you are.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The reason you don't remember me, based upon the
> names
> > > you
> > > > > > > brought
> > > > > > > > > up below, is that you are clearly a half generation
> > > older
> > > > > than
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > am.
> > > > > > > > > My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to
> you I
> > > > know
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > little something about your generation in AP, let's
> see
> > > if
> > > > I
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > identify some of the people you are refering to
> below.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from
> third
> > > ave.
> > > > > who
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think was there the night Artie Dello was killed.
> Is
> > > that
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit
older
> > > than
> > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > Other
> > > > > > > > > than that I don't know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ducky = Fornicola.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't
> remember
> > > the
> > > > > > rest.
> > > > > > > > > Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store
and
> > the
> > > > name
> > > > > > > > Johnny
> > > > > > > > > Cag. Could be a different guy though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's
> son.
> > > > RIP.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with
> his
> > > > > younger
> > > > > > > > > brother Micheal.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Butch B = Butch from the Pony?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she
has
> me
> > > by
> > > > 7
> > > > > > > years.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The rest of your friends I might remember with more
> > info.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was
> > > about
> > > > 5
> > > > > or
> > > > > > 6
> > > > > > > > > when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there.
> If
> > > you
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > 7th
> > > > > > > > > ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family
> every
> > > > year
> > > > > > > > through
> > > > > > > > > my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard
at
> > the
> > > > time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside
> convention
> > > > hall.
> > > > > > > Jimmy
> > > > > > > > > Bruno worked there giving out change at the time.
I
> > had
> > > > high
> > > > > > > > score
> > > > > > > > > on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you
> on
> > in
> > > > pin
> > > > > > ball
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it
> was
> > > > owned
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > > > Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You
> can
> > > > check
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the "five
> > > > percenter"
> > > > > > > > > years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new
> book
> > > on
> > > > > Holy
> > > > > > > > > Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was
> 10).
> > > > What
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > you graduate APHS?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On what street did you grow up?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo"
> <apoojo@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> > > <asburydogma@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > > > > > > > > <bluebishop82@>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty
> > > <lighty@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the
> Baronet.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back
> 10
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > years ,
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > was the first and only theatre in the area to
show
> > > > > > woodstock,
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > movie
> > > > > > > > > > > bb or should it be bs because none of us
> oldtimers
> > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here
> > > > partied
> > > > > > here,
> > > > > > > > > dont
> > > > > > > > > > remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the
arcades
> > > etc.,
> > > > > > later
> > > > > > > > > > attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in
> the
> > > > 80s ,
> > > > > > 90s,
> > > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > dont remember you , you are a living legend in
> your
> > > mind
> > > > > > only,
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > have been present and vocal since you got your
> job,
> > > god
> > > > > > bless
> > > > > > > > you,
> > > > > > > > > > west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the
> > true
> > > > > > > > definition
> > > > > > > > > > fron the 60s 70s
> > > > > > > > > > > oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late
> great
> > > > > > comedian
> > > > > > > > > andy
> > > > > > > > > > devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to
> all
> > > > but
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > bull
> > > > > > > > > > shit someone whos been here longer than all of
> you,
> > > you
> > > > > > insult
> > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey
> p.
> > > > johnny
> > > > > > cag,
> > > > > > > > t
> > > > > > > > > > rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy ,
> butch
> > > b. ,
> > > > > > lenny,
> > > > > > > > > frank
> > > > > > > > > > n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike
> musto,
> > > d.
> > > > > > > klinger
> > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > > could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk
> about
> > > > the
> > > > > > past
> > > > > > > > > unless
> > > > > > > > > > you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting
> to
> > > be
> > > > > > > wannabes
> > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough
to
> > > lived
> > > > > > thru
> > > > > > > it,
> > > > > > > > > > (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future
> and
> > > > work
> > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > for a better city, drop the false represntations
> the
> > > > egos
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > continue buying postcards, your choice.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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