Everyone here, seems to validate why AP, shouldn't have this mission and if it's true, that AP residents aren't eligible, what's the point? I'm not changing my position, but I may have spoken too soon! Denise stated, that after the close of Marlboro, was when AP, became a dumping ground for eveyone's refuse and that, was a true statement, but what is the solution? I thought that this is/was, the purpose of the Mission, a "hand-up", instead of a "hand-out"! Released convicts, should NOT be brought here, because other towns, have half-way houses, like Jersey City, that get them employed and training. I had heard, but it is only hearsay, that training, is available here, in AP. Am I correct or just what, IS available? I'm in the mindset, that this place would be for homeless veterans, men down and out on their luck, but all this talk of pedophiles, is scary! Tommy, I was just pulling your chain! Yes, I know you work here and pay taxes here; it's your hometown and I apologize, if I sounded a little underhanded. No, I humbly, apologize! I have no right, to jusge who is and who isn't, in favor of this city! See, I have no problem, saying I'm sorry. I did register for the newsletter, for the link, Mario has so graciously posted here. A very interesting site. This is a threat, not a promise, that before I post, I will TRY, to have all my ducks in a row, instead of opening my mouth and inserting my foot! Sorry, ALL!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In reference to Tommy's post: > > > With over 80 non-profits and 39 churches > > Finally, some hard numbers! Thank you. Is there some place where these > 119 tax-exempts are listed by name and address? > > > all helping the poor, ..... > > > The skeptic in me wonders how many of these are legit as opposed to Elmer > Gantry spin offs, ripping off everyone, the poor and the taxpayers. Does the > city, or anyone, monitor these non-profits and their credentials. > > _http://www.charitynavigator.org/_ (http://www.charitynavigator.org/) does > an admirable job, but I suspect many bogus "non-profits" are clever enough > to remain under everyone's radar. > > > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Rescue Mission Date: 2/14/2007 2:00:53 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) > Sent on: > > > > Kevin the issue is not whether to help, rather where to help and who > should provide it. > > With over 80 non-profits and 39 churches all helping the poor, > Asbury Park has done enough. > > Don't give me this holy rhetoric about moral responsibility - don't > you dare - not when the other 51 Monmouth County towns aren't > kicking in any where near the help we are, and some not at all. > We've done more than our share. > > Also, Jesus never put a shelter full of pedophiles, who will be > released at 7:00 am, in the path of children walking to school. > > Where is your moral responsibility towared those kids? > > If moral responsibility is measured by assitance to the poor, then > Asbury Park is the Mother Theresa of Monmouth County. > > Go spread your moral indignation in a town in Monmouth that isn't > helping the poor. How about we put this mission next to you know > who's parent's house in Belmar? See if he would support it then. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , > "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Tommy, criminal behaviour is not a factor in the overall decision > to > > allow services for the needy. Jesus never rejected a soul. > Ministry > > is charged with aiding those in need. If the liberal court system > > weren't releasing these individuals back into society there would > be > > no public threat. To cease support because among the masses there > > are those that intend evil upon another is like shutting down the > > asbury park government because former councilman Hamilton was > > arrested for taking a bribe. You can not corporately punish a > > segment of community because a handful in the community are evil. > > > > As for me being happy that asbury wouldn't have a mission, with > the > > inuendo that our ministry in Long Branch would have > more "business" > > is another flaw in defense of the objection of the asbury facility. > > > > It is incumbent upon every municipality to provide services for > all > > it's citizens. The attitude that it would draw people into Asbury > is > > noted, however the reason that may occur is because other > communities > > are not being held responsible for the needs within their own > > jurisdiction. Until the State begins to provide shelter for > homeless > > people statewide, more importantly shelter services are profitable > > operations, they are charity driven. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
