Tommie, Is this really called for, Screaming my name ?

Oh yes I forgot everything is my fault, yah thats it, something is not right, 
blame Werner.

Come-on, lighten up. I've asked you in the past not to misrepresent or 
selectively 
'interpret' what i write. Now I am demanding it.

And don't start in with interrogatories about this , you know what I'm 
referring to.

Werner

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Et tu, Asbury Couple?  Et tu?
> 
> Why do people keep laying things on me today that aren't mine?
> 
> I said nothing, good or bad about JK and his position on the 
> Mission, and I did not say he himself is an issue.
> 
> WERNER posted saying that it is misinformation to assert JK has a 
> position on the mission.
> 
> I did nothing more than refer to WERNER to the Holy Spirit tape, 
> where Jim did have a position.
> 
> That's it.  Period.  All I said.
> 
> From that I'm being associated with calling him pariah and making 
> him an issue.
> 
> Was not Werner making him an issue for daring to speak his name?
> 
> Like I said.  Some folks are a bit too sensitive when it comes to 
> him.
> 
> I'm certain I did not attack him or make him an issue by simply 
> pointing WERNER to a tape.
> 
>  
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom, in this case I think he has every right to support it without 
> > becoming the issue.  Are you saying that just because he's on the 
> > council he doesn't get to have an opinion on this - or that it 
> can't 
> > be different from your own?  
> > 
> > I am totally against the mission.  I strongly disagree with Jim on 
> > this one.  But being on the council does not eliminate his right 
> to 
> > have an opinion, just as the others are not supportive of the 
> mission 
> > and have their own right to express their opinion.  I don't agree 
> > with Jim but respect him for not being afraid to take a visible 
> stand 
> > for what he believes in the face of so much opposition.  This 
> isn't 
> > going to earn him votes, and he knows it.  Yet he is willing to 
> stand 
> > on conviction.  Whether you agree or not, give some credit for 
> > standing on principles.  I know someone else on this board who 
> often 
> > takes an unpopular stand (ie., you).  I also disagree with you 
> much 
> > of the time but do appreciate the same quality in you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You're right. I see that you were responding to Paul.
> > > 
> > > While we are on that subject then, I don't think JK's view on 
> the 
> > > matter is irrelevant.
> > > 
> > > I'm irrelevant.  He's a sitting council person.  There's a 
> > > difference from when I talk and when he talks.
> > > 
> > > His carries different weight.  
> > > 
> > > We've been down this road before. He isn't just an advocate 
> > > anymore.  He is a community leader.  His words even when not on 
> the 
> > > dais have an effect.
> > > 
> > > If he is going to ne "neutral" on the Mission he can't then 
> > continue 
> > > to speak up for it and defend it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah.  In 
> fact, 
> > > not 
> > > > > one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or 
> his 
> > > > > positions.
> > > > 
> > > > Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, 
> > > while I 
> > > > responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on 
> > > behalf 
> > > > of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your 
> > > post, 
> > > > which you have accurately explained, does not make him a 
> pariah. 
> > > But, 
> > > > is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, 
> and 
> > of 
> > > > course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I 
> was 
> > > > complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which 
> > > > cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought 
> > the 
> > > > Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to 
> > > oppose, 
> > > > or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will 
> > > affect 
> > > > the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly 
> > > > irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that.
> > > > 
> > > > SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It 
> is 
> > > > about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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