Werner I truly am confused here. I believed the purpose of you post was to assert that JK has never expressed an opinion for or against the Mission. Is that what your post was asserting?
In my post I simply referred you to the Holy Spirit tape where he does take a positon. I didn't say anything offensive to or about you, JK or anyone else. I simply referred you to the tape, and made no judgements good, bad or indifferent about anyone. Why did this conversation take such a negative turn? I truly don't understand. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommie, Is this really called for, Screaming my name ? > > Oh yes I forgot everything is my fault, yah thats it, something is not right, blame Werner. > > Come-on, lighten up. I've asked you in the past not to misrepresent or selectively > 'interpret' what i write. Now I am demanding it. > > And don't start in with interrogatories about this , you know what I'm referring to. > > Werner > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > Et tu, Asbury Couple? Et tu? > > > > Why do people keep laying things on me today that aren't mine? > > > > I said nothing, good or bad about JK and his position on the > > Mission, and I did not say he himself is an issue. > > > > WERNER posted saying that it is misinformation to assert JK has a > > position on the mission. > > > > I did nothing more than refer to WERNER to the Holy Spirit tape, > > where Jim did have a position. > > > > That's it. Period. All I said. > > > > From that I'm being associated with calling him pariah and making > > him an issue. > > > > Was not Werner making him an issue for daring to speak his name? > > > > Like I said. Some folks are a bit too sensitive when it comes to > > him. > > > > I'm certain I did not attack him or make him an issue by simply > > pointing WERNER to a tape. > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <asburycouple@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Tom, in this case I think he has every right to support it without > > > becoming the issue. Are you saying that just because he's on the > > > council he doesn't get to have an opinion on this - or that it > > can't > > > be different from your own? > > > > > > I am totally against the mission. I strongly disagree with Jim on > > > this one. But being on the council does not eliminate his right > > to > > > have an opinion, just as the others are not supportive of the > > mission > > > and have their own right to express their opinion. I don't agree > > > with Jim but respect him for not being afraid to take a visible > > stand > > > for what he believes in the face of so much opposition. This > > isn't > > > going to earn him votes, and he knows it. Yet he is willing to > > stand > > > on conviction. Whether you agree or not, give some credit for > > > standing on principles. I know someone else on this board who > > often > > > takes an unpopular stand (ie., you). I also disagree with you > > much > > > of the time but do appreciate the same quality in you. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You're right. I see that you were responding to Paul. > > > > > > > > While we are on that subject then, I don't think JK's view on > > the > > > > matter is irrelevant. > > > > > > > > I'm irrelevant. He's a sitting council person. There's a > > > > difference from when I talk and when he talks. > > > > > > > > His carries different weight. > > > > > > > > We've been down this road before. He isn't just an advocate > > > > anymore. He is a community leader. His words even when not on > > the > > > > dais have an effect. > > > > > > > > If he is going to ne "neutral" on the Mission he can't then > > > continue > > > > to speak up for it and defend it. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In > > fact, > > > > not > > > > > > one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or > > his > > > > > > positions. > > > > > > > > > > Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, > > > > while I > > > > > responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on > > > > behalf > > > > > of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your > > > > post, > > > > > which you have accurately explained, does not make him a > > pariah. > > > > But, > > > > > is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, > > and > > > of > > > > > course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I > > was > > > > > complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which > > > > > cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought > > > the > > > > > Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to > > > > oppose, > > > > > or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will > > > > affect > > > > > the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly > > > > > irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that. > > > > > > > > > > SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It > > is > > > > > about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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