Even if the law suit was won, the parents still can send their children to 
private school or do home schooling.  Without vastly improving the high school 
first and making  it a desirable place for students to be, any law suit would 
be futile. 
 
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To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Lastly...


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
I think the Abbott lawsuit took about 4 years.

I'm with you on this one Tom. I don't understand the rationale 
> (legally) around letting students in this district go to other 
> district's public schools. Requiring those students to go to APH 
of 
> pay for private would improve the overall diversity of the school 
> while increasing the focus on improvements not just from parents in 
> AP but parents and taxpayers from the entire district. 
> 
> A lawsuit from the school board to re-visit this "avoid Asbury Park 
> High" policy is both appropriate and would have a good chance of 
> success.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > Oak you have taken my ball and run onto a whole different field 
> with 
> > it. In fact, you are not even playing the same sport with my 
ball.
> > 
> > NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in any of my posts has to due 
with 
> > inequality in funding. NOTHING. 
> > 
> > My topic is that we are sending the white kids away from their 
> HOME 
> > district. Get that? Their HOME district. That's why I call 
> > it "reverse busing." 
> > 
> > I understand people don't like busing when it is taking kids away 
> > from their home district, to a foreign district, to create racial 
> > balacne in the foreign district. I understand that is 
> objectionable.
> > 
> > If that is objectionable, so is busing kids AWAY FROM THEIR HOME 
> > DISTRICT therefore creating the segregated district at home!
> > 
> > Why not make all the kids stay in their home district? They're 
> > making your kid do it Oak, but the kids in the Asbury District 
are 
> > given this special privilege to avoid AP.
> > 
> > This decision was race based. It is the only one like it. It was 
> > done with a particular purpose, which if you look at the 
> enrollment, 
> > worked.
> > 
> > None of the matters you cite overturned Brown.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > TD: Lsats are June 11. Can't wait.
> > > 
> > > Given the true facts, I see no reason why the schools in NJ are 
> > not 
> > > funded equally. Again, TD, at what point are things considered 
> > equal?
> > > Is it the point every kid from an Abbott district gets into a 
> > college 
> > > of their choice or gets straight A's, what about the white kids 
> > from 
> > > the lawsuit driven rural Abbott Districts? 
> > > 
> > > Tell me - what is equal? beer on me. (then we'll be equal)
> > > 
> > > Another bit:
> > > http://www.issues-views.com/index.php/sect/1003/article/501
> > > ....Instead of relying on these explicit constitutional 
> > guarantees, 
> > > the Court chose to compromise and used sophistic social science 
> in 
> > a 
> > > legal case that would cripple the education and lives of 
> millions 
> > of 
> > > black children for generations to come. 
> > > 
> > > With all due respect to Judge Damon Keith (a jurist of the 
> highest 
> > > order) this gala event tomorrow [May 17, 2003] celebrating the 
> > Brown 
> > > v. Board of Education case, is a terrible tragedy, not because 
I 
> > > don't believe that black people should be allowed to attend 
> school 
> > > with whites. I am a black man--born and raised in Detroit and 
> > > attended Detroit public schools with white children from K-12. 
> > > However, to celebrate a court case such as Brown, which is 
> > obviously 
> > > not based on a single judicial precedent, diminishes the 
> > Constitution 
> > > that every American should put its faith in to uphold. 
> > > 
> > > In 1954, there was a Faustian bargain made among the eight 
> voting 
> > > members of the U.S. Supreme Court, Congress, the President, as 
> > well 
> > > as every court in America, every political leader, every public 
> > > school, private school, law school, university, academy, and 
> every 
> > > responsible American citizen. To give legitimacy to Brown v. 
> Board 
> > of 
> > > Education, is to sacrifice lawful constitutional due process 
and 
> > > sound constitutional jurisprudence for the expediency of the 
> > public 
> > > policy fiction, which the Brown opinion solidified in American 
> > > culture--that is, that black children must be allowed to attend 
> > > public school with white children in order to get [equally] 
> > educated. 
> > > 
> > > This type of misguided public policy presupposes that black 
> > people, 
> > > prior to 1954, were totally uneducated, ignorant and, just 
> waiting 
> > > for Masser to open up the school house door so us poor negroes 
> can 
> > > finally get educated by going to school with the white folks! 
> Ms. 
> > > Taylor, the hateful assumptions Brown makes about our people 
> > should 
> > > be publicly denounced by all rational persons of any race, 
class 
> > or 
> > > creed. 
> > > 
> > > In the final analysis, I hope that you will read the selected 
> > > passages on the Brown opinion in my book, The Inseparability of 
> > Law 
> > > and Morality: The Constitution, Natural Law and the Rule of Law 
> > > (University Press of America,); mtownsend@, or 
> > > http://www.univpress.com.
> > >
> >
>


 
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