Inflated distribution numbers? LOL. We print and distribute 20,000 copies. We're moving to 25,000 this summer. And roughly 160,000 readers online...
Feel free to call our printer if you're interested.

Maybe I was wrong about the Warped Tour numbers, I don't know. I can't find the numbers on the web other than a 2002 show that drew 16,000 (over your number). Why is it that when people here respond, they generally have to attack people personally? Where in my original post did my magazine come into play? Or are you just jealous at the amount of copies we distribute?

BTW, the WNEW shows easily did 80,000 to 100,000 by police reports and anyone that was there can verify those amounts. If you don't believe it, I'll be glad to post the pictures of a crowd from the Casino to Convention Hall plus the boardwalk plus a dozen or more boats watching the show.



On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, rawdogalways wrote:

The Warped Tour in Asbury Park was sold out at 13,000. Where do you
get your numbers Gary? I guess it comes from inflated distribution
numbers...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town. Was this
festival
> near those levels?
>
> I agree with Werner. This plan was absolutely 100% against the
idea
> of tourism. It's amazing that a town with a beach, a boardwalk,
and
> history would abandon such features that other towns could only
dream
> about.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, charlie wrote:
>
> >
> > "The "Plan" was not created with attracting visitors in mind.
> > Tourism, events,
> > etc were notconsidered or accounted for. The Beach and
commercial
> > components are to be for the use of the "condo dwellers"."
> >
> > I agree, i think a lot of the boardwalk stores, food, and
> > other attractions are aimed at being worthy enough for these
> > million dollar condos. There for sure will be high class
places,
> > aimed to please these high end condo buyers. Although, i think
> > many aspects of the boardwalk will catter to a typical
boardwalk.
> > You can have a mix of both, and claim the happiness of
different
> > groups all at once.
> > With todays events, you have to wonder. If the roadwork
were
> > the way it was before, would the event still have parking
> > problems? I say yes. I remember a few years back when i was
in
> > highschool and i'd go to the Warped Tour (a concert of sorts),
the
> > streets were always packed with no parking. Now this is going
back
> > 6 years before any roadwork had begun. Parking appears to have
> > always been an issue. Now it's worse, becasue parking spaces
were
> > lost. You couldnt have gained any, but you didn't have to
loose
> > any either.
> > Places like The Wonder Bar and the Stone pony attrack a lot
of
> > cars on certain nights. These buildings are sitting in the mist
of
> > a changing enviorment. They don't seem to fit in 100 percent.
In
> > a few years, will they still be there? If they arn't then
things
> > may go along smoothly (not sure how smooth). But becasue they
are
> > still there, there almost in the way, or a blockage of sorts
> > causing insanity. It's not that the deisgn is bad, it's just
> > different then what these buildings came out of.
> > The design isn't designed in the same ways that the
previous
> > one was. The Convention hall and Casino are huge buildings.
> > However, they may not need as much parking as everyone thinks
they
> > will need. Why? Becasue from the way things were planed, its
> > possiable these buildings were not to be used as much as they
had
> > been. Not to the max, not to capacity. But maybe below
capacity!
> > They can't take them down. They know there would be hell to pay
if
> > they tried to, or did. These are just thoughts.. Clearly i
don't
> > know any information, or claim to know what's going on! Whats
> > everyone else think?
> > I like the lights, the sidewalks. The plaza in front of
> > Convention hall is nice. I didn'tget my curved sidewalk around
> > HoJo back, but i like the new courtyard a lot. I also consider
it
> > to be sitll be "open space" like what was there previously. I
> > think that area can now hold a lot of people. standing,
walking
> > thru. Compared to before, everyone had to squeeze thrue that
10
> > foot wide walkway around Hojo?! Now you can have groups of
people
> > coming off the sidewalk and heading straight for the boardwalk.
> > On one side they cut back the openness. Yet on the other,
they
> > opened things up in aspects.
> >
> >
> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> >
> >
>




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