You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park...Did you ever
attend The Warped Tour? How about the WNEW shows? Ever see Bruce in
the 80's at the Pony? You have proven over and over again that you
are not qualified to publish a magazine. The writing is HORRIBLE!!!
The layout has gotten better, but it still sux...Funny thing is
everybody knows it except you...Just how many copies do you throw
away each month?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Inflated distribution numbers? LOL. We print and distribute
20,000
> copies. We're moving to 25,000 this summer. And roughly 160,000
> readers online...
> Feel free to call our printer if you're interested.
>
> Maybe I was wrong about the Warped Tour numbers, I don't know. I
> can't find the numbers on the web other than a 2002 show that
drew
> 16,000 (over your number). Why is it that when people here
respond,
> they generally have to attack people personally? Where in my
> original post did my magazine come into play? Or are you just
jealous
> at the amount of copies we distribute?
>
> BTW, the WNEW shows easily did 80,000 to 100,000 by police
reports
> and anyone that was there can verify those amounts. If you don't
> believe it, I'll be glad to post the pictures of a crowd from the
> Casino to Convention Hall plus the boardwalk plus a dozen or more
> boats watching the show.
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, rawdogalways wrote:
>
> > The Warped Tour in Asbury Park was sold out at 13,000. Where do
you
> > get your numbers Gary? I guess it comes from inflated
distribution
> > numbers...
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <lightgrw@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town. Was this
> > festival
> > > near those levels?
> > >
> > > I agree with Werner. This plan was absolutely 100% against the
> > idea
> > > of tourism. It's amazing that a town with a beach, a boardwalk,
> > and
> > > history would abandon such features that other towns could only
> > dream
> > > about.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, charlie wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "The "Plan" was not created with attracting visitors in mind.
> > > > Tourism, events,
> > > > etc were notconsidered or accounted for. The Beach and
> > commercial
> > > > components are to be for the use of the "condo dwellers"."
> > > >
> > > > I agree, i think a lot of the boardwalk stores, food, and
> > > > other attractions are aimed at being worthy enough for these
> > > > million dollar condos. There for sure will be high class
> > places,
> > > > aimed to please these high end condo buyers. Although, i
think
> > > > many aspects of the boardwalk will catter to a typical
> > boardwalk.
> > > > You can have a mix of both, and claim the happiness of
> > different
> > > > groups all at once.
> > > > With todays events, you have to wonder. If the roadwork
> > were
> > > > the way it was before, would the event still have parking
> > > > problems? I say yes. I remember a few years back when i was
> > in
> > > > highschool and i'd go to the Warped Tour (a concert of
sorts),
> > the
> > > > streets were always packed with no parking. Now this is going
> > back
> > > > 6 years before any roadwork had begun. Parking appears to
have
> > > > always been an issue. Now it's worse, becasue parking spaces
> > were
> > > > lost. You couldnt have gained any, but you didn't have to
> > loose
> > > > any either.
> > > > Places like The Wonder Bar and the Stone pony attrack a lot
> > of
> > > > cars on certain nights. These buildings are sitting in the
mist
> > of
> > > > a changing enviorment. They don't seem to fit in 100 percent.
> > In
> > > > a few years, will they still be there? If they arn't then
> > things
> > > > may go along smoothly (not sure how smooth). But becasue they
> > are
> > > > still there, there almost in the way, or a blockage of sorts
> > > > causing insanity. It's not that the deisgn is bad, it's just
> > > > different then what these buildings came out of.
> > > > The design isn't designed in the same ways that the
> > previous
> > > > one was. The Convention hall and Casino are huge buildings.
> > > > However, they may not need as much parking as everyone thinks
> > they
> > > > will need. Why? Becasue from the way things were planed, its
> > > > possiable these buildings were not to be used as much as they
> > had
> > > > been. Not to the max, not to capacity. But maybe below
> > capacity!
> > > > They can't take them down. They know there would be hell to
pay
> > if
> > > > they tried to, or did. These are just thoughts.. Clearly i
> > don't
> > > > know any information, or claim to know what's going on! Whats
> > > > everyone else think?
> > > > I like the lights, the sidewalks. The plaza in front of
> > > > Convention hall is nice. I didn'tget my curved sidewalk
around
> > > > HoJo back, but i like the new courtyard a lot. I also
consider
> > it
> > > > to be sitll be "open space" like what was there previously. I
> > > > think that area can now hold a lot of people. standing,
> > walking
> > > > thru. Compared to before, everyone had to squeeze thrue that
> > 10
> > > > foot wide walkway around Hojo?! Now you can have groups of
> > people
> > > > coming off the sidewalk and heading straight for the
boardwalk.
> > > > On one side they cut back the openness. Yet on the other,
> > they
> > > > opened things up in aspects.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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