--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rawdogalways" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> You see Gary, you have no history in Asbury Park..
> >
> > maybe im wrong, wont be the first time but i got this funny
feeling
HES BACK
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, rawdogalways wrote:
> >
> > > The Warped Tour in Asbury Park was sold out at 13,000. Where do
> you
> > > get your numbers Gary? I guess it comes from inflated
> distribution
> > > numbers...
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <lightgrw@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town. Was this
> > > festival
> > > > near those levels?
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Werner. This plan was absolutely 100% against the
> > > idea
> > > > of tourism. It's amazing that a town with a beach, a
boardwalk,
> > > and
> > > > history would abandon such features that other towns could
only
> > > dream
> > > > about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, charlie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "The "Plan" was not created with attracting visitors in
mind.
> > > > > Tourism, events,
> > > > > etc were notconsidered or accounted for. The Beach and
> > > commercial
> > > > > components are to be for the use of the "condo dwellers"."
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree, i think a lot of the boardwalk stores, food, and
> > > > > other attractions are aimed at being worthy enough for these
> > > > > million dollar condos. There for sure will be high class
> > > places,
> > > > > aimed to please these high end condo buyers. Although, i
> think
> > > > > many aspects of the boardwalk will catter to a typical
> > > boardwalk.
> > > > > You can have a mix of both, and claim the happiness of
> > > different
> > > > > groups all at once.
> > > > > With todays events, you have to wonder. If the roadwork
> > > were
> > > > > the way it was before, would the event still have parking
> > > > > problems? I say yes. I remember a few years back when i was
> > > in
> > > > > highschool and i'd go to the Warped Tour (a concert of
> sorts),
> > > the
> > > > > streets were always packed with no parking. Now this is
going
> > > back
> > > > > 6 years before any roadwork had begun. Parking appears to
> have
> > > > > always been an issue. Now it's worse, becasue parking spaces
> > > were
> > > > > lost. You couldnt have gained any, but you didn't have to
> > > loose
> > > > > any either.
> > > > > Places like The Wonder Bar and the Stone pony attrack a lot
> > > of
> > > > > cars on certain nights. These buildings are sitting in the
> mist
> > > of
> > > > > a changing enviorment. They don't seem to fit in 100
percent.
> > > In
> > > > > a few years, will they still be there? If they arn't then
> > > things
> > > > > may go along smoothly (not sure how smooth). But becasue
they
> > > are
> > > > > still there, there almost in the way, or a blockage of sorts
> > > > > causing insanity. It's not that the deisgn is bad, it's just
> > > > > different then what these buildings came out of.
> > > > > The design isn't designed in the same ways that the
> > > previous
> > > > > one was. The Convention hall and Casino are huge buildings.
> > > > > However, they may not need as much parking as everyone
thinks
> > > they
> > > > > will need. Why? Becasue from the way things were planed, its
> > > > > possiable these buildings were not to be used as much as
they
> > > had
> > > > > been. Not to the max, not to capacity. But maybe below
> > > capacity!
> > > > > They can't take them down. They know there would be hell to
> pay
> > > if
> > > > > they tried to, or did. These are just thoughts.. Clearly i
> > > don't
> > > > > know any information, or claim to know what's going on!
Whats
> > > > > everyone else think?
> > > > > I like the lights, the sidewalks. The plaza in front of
> > > > > Convention hall is nice. I didn'tget my curved sidewalk
> around
> > > > > HoJo back, but i like the new courtyard a lot. I also
> consider
> > > it
> > > > > to be sitll be "open space" like what was there previously.
I
> > > > > think that area can now hold a lot of people. standing,
> > > walking
> > > > > thru. Compared to before, everyone had to squeeze thrue that
> > > 10
> > > > > foot wide walkway around Hojo?! Now you can have groups of
> > > people
> > > > > coming off the sidewalk and heading straight for the
> boardwalk.
> > > > > On one side they cut back the openness. Yet on the other,
> > > they
> > > > > opened things up in aspects.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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