Jack I think the topic is a radio station having the right to pick
what music to play.
Don't you think they have that right? They own the station.
I understand they are licensed. So is a bar. The City doesn't tell
The Saint to pour Tanquerey or Beefeaters. Everyone would cry foul
if they did.
Why can't a radio station play the songs that they like?
What's next, 50 cent suing to be played on a Classic Rock Station?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a different point of view.
> Nobody is forced to listen to Bruce Springsteen or any artist.
> Instead of letting the government or a broadcaster decide what
they want people to be
> able to listen too, shouldn't the listener be the one making the
choice?
> I agree that porno, or racism, or anything THAT objectionable
shouldn't be presented
> without limits to the public, but music with opinions?
> That should be left up to the people.
> If you don't like Bruce and his message, simply don't buy his
music, and if his songs come
> on the radio, switch channels.
> Also, I have a huge problem with the selective way that the FCC
choses to censor things.
> Howard Stern brought up a good point the other day about a couple
of words he was fined
> and censored for..."scumbag" and "douchebag"
> Back when he was on the radio, he got yelled at for those, but on
a recent episode of the
> TV show Bionic Women (which I won't watch because the original was
just fine with me)
> both words were used, in primetime.
> To me, the FCC is becoming a joke in that respect. Oprah Winfrey
or the Bionic Women can
> get away with saying the same words and concepts that Howard was
fined for, and it gives
> the strong impression that the FCC is censoring with bias, which
is bullshit (censor that)
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary there was no boycott by Clear Channel. Some of their local
> > stations boycotted, some didn't. The decision was made by the
local
> > managers.
> >
> > Michael Moore tried to float the idea that it was decided at
> > Corporate. As usual, he had no proof and was wrong.
> >
> > Let me ask you though:
> >
> > Assume for a moment that Clear Channel did boycott an artist.
> >
> > Don't companies have the right of Freedom of Association and
Freedom
> > of Speech?
> >
> > How rich must one get before he gives up these rights?
> >
> > How many stations must one own before relinquishing their
> > constitutional rights? 5? 10? 100? More? Is there a sliding
scale
> > of constitutional rights based upon how many stations you own?
> >
> > Is there a "right" of muscians to be played on a station?
> >
> > If so, can I cut a record and sue to have it played, no matter
how
> > much the station hates the song?
> >
> > As for Bruce, he stuck up for Maines when Maines was railing
against
> > the little people who were bulldozing her CD's in public.
> >
> > Not much of a working class hero stance, siding with that
pampered
> > millionaire over the little folk.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <lightgrw@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tommy,
> > >
> > > The idea that Bruce was wrong on the radio station issue is up
to
> > > you. For me, he was dead on. The boycott was led by Clear
> > Channel -
> > > not individual radio station owners. Clear Channel owned the
> > main
> > > stations in just about every market in the country so no you
> > really
> > > couldn't just change the channel. He was going after the BIG
> > PICTURE
> > > of corporate ownership of radio rather than just the BIG
PICTURE
> > of
> > > censorship. This wasn't censorship on a local level, it was
> > showing
> > > how a huge corporation could censor the entire country.
> > >
> > > Bruce was right.
> > >
> > > On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:31 AM, justifiedright wrote:
> > >
> > > > I want him to shut up because he does not deserve a wide
> > audience on
> > > > politics. He gets the wide audience on music, then abuses
that by
> > > > switching over.
> > > >
> > > > Also - he is a hypocrite. He is bigger than us, so he gets
to
> > speak
> > > > to that wide audience. The radio stations are bigger than
the
> > Dixie
> > > > Chicks, and he was livid that they would speak by boycotting
> > them.
> > > >
> > > > You seem to be a fair guy Jack. You have to admit Bruce was a
> > > > hypocrite for crying foul against the radio station owners.
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > But why? Do you even know what he's saying?
> > > > > Do you want him to shut up just because he may be saying
> > something
> > > > you disagree with?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should speak out. Bruce should shut up and sing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can see a parallel here between me trying to
moderate
> > this
> > > > group
> > > > > > to this Bruce discussion
> > > > > > > as it relates to what you call "microphone abuse"
> > > > > > > I knew that when I posted what I said below it would
make
> > me
> > > > look
> > > > > > like a hypocrite.
> > > > > > > When you go see a Bruce show, you aren't going to hear
him
> > > > > > pontificate for 3 hours about
> > > > > > > politics. He may sprinkle his show with some of it,
but you
> > > > also
> > > > > > get classic songs and lot's
> > > > > > > of great live rock and roll. Same with his recordings.
It's
> > > > not
> > > > > > all politics.
> > > > > > > Don't you think many of us here in America are upset
with
> > > > what's
> > > > > > going on in our country?
> > > > > > > To not speak out is just being wimpy and equates to
hiding
> > > > your
> > > > > > head in the sand.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > > > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"
<hinge98@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, if somebody said to you "Hey Tommy - SHUT UP
AND
> > > > > > PRACTICE
> > > > > > > > >LAW!!" I'd defend
> > > > > > > > > you also. We all have the right to voice our
opinions.
> > > > > > > > > It's just like the way people used to get angry
about
> > > > Howard
> > > > > > Stern.
> > > > > > > > >You have a
> > > > > > > > > choice...listen, or tune away.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The difference is that Bruce and others like him
> > > > > > commit "microphone
> > > > > > > > abuse."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are people on this board that study and follow
> > > > politics
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > closely than he does. The problems is we can't
gather a
> > > > wide
> > > > > > audience.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bruce gets a wide audience for a different reason -
> > music.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > abuses that by talking politics, not music. He has
> > nothing
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > important to say than anyone else, but abuses his
> > postion to
> > > > get
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > thoughts stated widely.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He's also a hypocrite. He was very critical of radio
> > > > station
> > > > > > owners
> > > > > > > > who boycotted Dixie Chicks. Don't radio station
owners
> > have
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > speech rights? You can always change the station,
right?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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