I have a different point of view.
Nobody is forced to listen to Bruce Springsteen or any artist.
Instead of letting the government or a broadcaster decide what they want people
to be
able to listen too, shouldn't the listener be the one making the choice?
I agree that porno, or racism, or anything THAT objectionable shouldn't be
presented
without limits to the public, but music with opinions?
That should be left up to the people.
If you don't like Bruce and his message, simply don't buy his music, and if his
songs come
on the radio, switch channels.
Also, I have a huge problem with the selective way that the FCC choses to
censor things.
Howard Stern brought up a good point the other day about a couple of words he
was fined
and censored for..."scumbag" and "douchebag"
Back when he was on the radio, he got yelled at for those, but on a recent
episode of the
TV show Bionic Women (which I won't watch because the original was just fine
with me)
both words were used, in primetime.
To me, the FCC is becoming a joke in that respect. Oprah Winfrey or the Bionic
Women can
get away with saying the same words and concepts that Howard was fined for, and
it gives
the strong impression that the FCC is censoring with bias, which is bullshit
(censor that)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gary there was no boycott by Clear Channel. Some of their local
> stations boycotted, some didn't. The decision was made by the local
> managers.
>
> Michael Moore tried to float the idea that it was decided at
> Corporate. As usual, he had no proof and was wrong.
>
> Let me ask you though:
>
> Assume for a moment that Clear Channel did boycott an artist.
>
> Don't companies have the right of Freedom of Association and Freedom
> of Speech?
>
> How rich must one get before he gives up these rights?
>
> How many stations must one own before relinquishing their
> constitutional rights? 5? 10? 100? More? Is there a sliding scale
> of constitutional rights based upon how many stations you own?
>
> Is there a "right" of muscians to be played on a station?
>
> If so, can I cut a record and sue to have it played, no matter how
> much the station hates the song?
>
> As for Bruce, he stuck up for Maines when Maines was railing against
> the little people who were bulldozing her CD's in public.
>
> Not much of a working class hero stance, siding with that pampered
> millionaire over the little folk.
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <lightgrw@> wrote:
> >
> > Tommy,
> >
> > The idea that Bruce was wrong on the radio station issue is up to
> > you. For me, he was dead on. The boycott was led by Clear
> Channel -
> > not individual radio station owners. Clear Channel owned the
> main
> > stations in just about every market in the country so no you
> really
> > couldn't just change the channel. He was going after the BIG
> PICTURE
> > of corporate ownership of radio rather than just the BIG PICTURE
> of
> > censorship. This wasn't censorship on a local level, it was
> showing
> > how a huge corporation could censor the entire country.
> >
> > Bruce was right.
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:31 AM, justifiedright wrote:
> >
> > > I want him to shut up because he does not deserve a wide
> audience on
> > > politics. He gets the wide audience on music, then abuses that by
> > > switching over.
> > >
> > > Also - he is a hypocrite. He is bigger than us, so he gets to
> speak
> > > to that wide audience. The radio stations are bigger than the
> Dixie
> > > Chicks, and he was livid that they would speak by boycotting
> them.
> > >
> > > You seem to be a fair guy Jack. You have to admit Bruce was a
> > > hypocrite for crying foul against the radio station owners.
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But why? Do you even know what he's saying?
> > > > Do you want him to shut up just because he may be saying
> something
> > > you disagree with?
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You should speak out. Bruce should shut up and sing.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can see a parallel here between me trying to moderate
> this
> > > group
> > > > > to this Bruce discussion
> > > > > > as it relates to what you call "microphone abuse"
> > > > > > I knew that when I posted what I said below it would make
> me
> > > look
> > > > > like a hypocrite.
> > > > > > When you go see a Bruce show, you aren't going to hear him
> > > > > pontificate for 3 hours about
> > > > > > politics. He may sprinkle his show with some of it, but you
> > > also
> > > > > get classic songs and lot's
> > > > > > of great live rock and roll. Same with his recordings. It's
> > > not
> > > > > all politics.
> > > > > > Don't you think many of us here in America are upset with
> > > what's
> > > > > going on in our country?
> > > > > > To not speak out is just being wimpy and equates to hiding
> > > your
> > > > > head in the sand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, if somebody said to you "Hey Tommy - SHUT UP AND
> > > > > PRACTICE
> > > > > > > >LAW!!" I'd defend
> > > > > > > > you also. We all have the right to voice our opinions.
> > > > > > > > It's just like the way people used to get angry about
> > > Howard
> > > > > Stern.
> > > > > > > >You have a
> > > > > > > > choice...listen, or tune away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The difference is that Bruce and others like him
> > > > > commit "microphone
> > > > > > > abuse."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are people on this board that study and follow
> > > politics
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > closely than he does. The problems is we can't gather a
> > > wide
> > > > > audience.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bruce gets a wide audience for a different reason -
> music.
> > > Then
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > abuses that by talking politics, not music. He has
> nothing
> > > more
> > > > > > > important to say than anyone else, but abuses his
> postion to
> > > get
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > thoughts stated widely.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He's also a hypocrite. He was very critical of radio
> > > station
> > > > > owners
> > > > > > > who boycotted Dixie Chicks. Don't radio station owners
> have
> > > > > free
> > > > > > > speech rights? You can always change the station, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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