Scott you've given me a business idea.
Why don't we start an Americanization School?
Non-political. Teach grade school level history, seminars on
schools, taxes, law, food, pop-culture, and how to take and pass the
test for citizenship.
Market it to Governments, Corporations, Schools and social
organizations.
Whose with me?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> From a moderate democrat to a conservative replublican - I will
stand
> with you and protest against those who would fight a company
helping
> their immigrant employees (or non-employees) learn english and
become
> citizens.
>
> See you at the rally!
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > It's a great point you make.
> >
> > I have a winderful picture hanging in my office. It is from
1928.
> > About 3 to 4 feet wide.
> >
> > It's 150 Immigrants being sworn in as citizens at the White
House.
> > President Coolidge did the swearing in. My grandfater is in the
> > picture, having been sworn in that day.
> >
> > The people in the photo are dressed in their Sunday best,
beaming
> > with pride.
> >
> > The picture is marded "Americanization School of the State of
New
> > Jersey."
> >
> > I checked into the history, particularly with the State.
> >
> > "Americanization Schools" were common back during large
European
> > immigration days.
> >
> > They were held by companies who hired immigrants, and social
> > organizations like the Sons of Italy, Sons of Shillelagh, etc.
> >
> > At the "Americanization" school, the Immigrants would learn
about
> > the language, the clothing, money, food, government, social
> > expectations, schools, etc.
> >
> > Once completed, they would be assited in taking the test for
> > citizenship.
> >
> > It was wonderful, and a great way to help immigrants assimilate
> into
> > America; they were proud to do it.
> >
> > NOW IMAGINE TODAY!!! Could you imagine if a big company today
set
> > up an Americanization school!?!?!
> >
> > The ACLU would sue. Certain folks would claim "xenophobia"
> > and "prejudice" "racism" and "intolerance" and claim these poor
> > folks were having their "culture disrespected."
> >
> > So while I agree I'd like to see opportunities like the for
> > immigrants, you just go ahead and try it, and see how you get
> > labeled.
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple"
<asburycouple@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > My intention there was not to point the word "villifying" at
you -
>
> > > you have not in your posts and Tom I apologize to you if you
feel
> > I
> > > implied that sepcifically regarding you. It was more of a
> general
> > > statement because many in this country do.
> > >
> > > Aside from that, there are two points I was making.
> > >
> > > One was that perhaps we should provide opportunities that help
> > them
> > > make that transition. Learning a language is not easy - made
> > harder
> > > when you work long hours for little pay and live amoung people
> who
> > > speak your native tongue rather than the one you want to
learn.
> > >
> > > Second was that the police have a job to do, and saddling them
> > with a
> > > mandate that makes it more difficult for them to do it is a
> > mistake.
> > > Similar to when the federal government madates the states
without
> > > funding - forcing them to redirect funding from their own
> > priorities
> > > to the federal governments. I want the police to fight crime
> > using
> > > whatever tactics are required, including speaking whatever
> > languages
> > > necessary to accomplish their tasks.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on the points I was trying to make.
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple"
> > <asburycouple@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So perhaps rather than simply
> > > > > villifying those who can't speak the language an effort
can
> be
> > > made
> > > > > to provide an opportunity to learn English?
> > > >
> > > > Who is doing the villifying? Who is clamoring for
> opportunities
> > to
> > > > learn English? Please compare.
> > > >
> > > > I've said many times my prodding for them to learn English
is
> > > > compassion toward them. Success comes much easier with the
> > English
> > > > language in America. No one can dispute that, so all the
> > > > encouragement to speak English is a help to them, not
> > > villification.
> > > > It is also asking for them to take every "opportunity to
learn
> > > > English" as you say.
> > > >
> > > > Yet for giving this good, helpful, compassionate advice,
some
> > will
> > > > yell "Xenophobe" which is how this conversation started.
> > > >
> > > > So who is doing the villifying here? The folks yelling
> > xenophobe,
> > > > that's who.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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