Actually, I think you misunderstood what I was saying
I mean, completely misunderstood everything I said, considering I basically
said everything Mr Keady said.
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From: "2fast4u" <sharon_b...@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:01:49
To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP
You misunderstood what he's saying. It's true, AP boardwalk, doesn't
have the crime, indicative of Sea Side Heights. I'm surprised also that there
hasn't been any uprisings since 1970, seeing that nothing
has been done on the West Side until now and it's generally an
obstacle course to get through the streets when they were all torn up
and what few businesses that thrive over there came close to closing,
no thanks to the City that "allowed" the out of County contractor
to disrespect the African American Community over there.
What is it about Jim, that riles you to want to have harm visit him?
He valiantly speaks for ALL who live here, including me! I've lived
in Monmouth County over 40 years; 20 years in AP, 20 in Neptune and
18 months in Belmar. Are you a part of the solution or part of the problem?
Gangs just didn't pop uo here. It was years in coming to
an area, depressed by poverty and unemployment. Substandard housing and racial
discrimination of all forms.
Do you think the schools in AP got bad overnight? I've heard countless stories
about what really happened here. Sending districts began sending their
students to Ocean Township and Red Bank, making
Asbury Park virtually all Black/Hispanic and as far back as 1972, a
substandard school system. That's just for starters. So if a
man who happens to be white and a Christian in every sense, feels
passionate about anyone not living their dream, you want harm to come to?
Please, you sound just like the rest of the "newbies", who have no clue that AP
is NOT SoHo South, but a microcosm of everything that's
wrong with this country. When 2 million Blacks and Hispanics are
incarcerated, yet make up 12% of the population, something is definitely wrong
with this picture. If teachers aren't teaching our kids, I say fire them all
and get some who are interested in teaching
us the way I was taught 50 years ago. I believe too, the Police,
Firefighters and Emergency technicians have more than they can handle.
The State Police have patroled Asbury's streets ever since the riots.
The Authorities need to get to the bottom of how sophisticated, gangs
have become. They operate out of the prisons and offer unsupervised
youths a "glamorous" life, money and a false sense of security, where
none is offered at home. Television offers up a glamorous lifestyle
to youths living in the ghetto, promising them "bling" like the pros have.
Role models begin at home. My son works a gang intervention
program. Instead of criticizing someone's "opinion", you should
offer help, but you're too busy texting on your smart phone!
I know Jim and he works for JUSTICE for ALL!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> To a certain degree, I actually agree with that. Our boardwalk per say, does
> not have the same criminal element as Seasides boardwalk. Any given night
> Monday thru Friday there is at least one stabbing/fight in Seaside, not to
> mention their boardwalk is infested with Snooki's and Situations alike. Which
> thankfully we have avoided for the most part.
>
> Also, keep in mind, many visitors do not see the Asbury crime first hand like
> us residents. 99% of the Crime in AP takes place off the boardwalk. Creating
> a nice "cover" for the book that is AP. Very few of these visitors read about
> the crime because the APP is hardly read outside the immediate area. God
> forbid the TriCity mention any crime...
>
> The city officials and MM have done a great job of pulling the wool over our
> summer guests eyes, which plays right into Mr Keady's email from yesterday
>
> I would have loved to have dropped the guy from the Sand Witch off at Boston
> Way and had him revisit his statement again lol
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "hmelissar" <hmelissar@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:33:40
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I haven't written on here in a long time, but this episode of people almost
> being shot in their houses while they are sleeping, and the statistic that
> there have been 10 shootings in Asbury last month alone, make me very
> distressed. Jim, I think you are right. I don't know anything about the City
> Council, but thank you for your service on it. It sounds very frustrating.
>
> Yesterday I overhead a conversation at The Sand Witch on the AP Boardwalk
> that has stuck with me: a man, a tourist from I'm not sure where, was
> chatting with the restaurant owner, comparing the AP boardwalk to other
> boardwalks in the state. He said that he heard that Seaside Heights had a
> bunch of arrests (I am paraphrasing here) on July 4th and 5th, and as a
> result they closed down, and the Sand Witch owner said, yeah, lots of
> homeless people starting fights, drug addicts, etc in Seaside. Lots of
> hoodlums. Because of Snooki, the clubs are packed, but that's about it. And
> the tourist guy's response: "yeah, no hoodlums here." I was surprised-thought
> the guy was being sarcastic, making a joke, but he was serious- obviously he
> had no knowledge that a big part of Asbury is a gang haven, drugs, crime,
> etc. I guess the gentrification of the AP boardwalk is complete. Weird.
>
> Sometimes I wonder if the beautiful new boardwalk will someday incite future
> riots, and how much the current gentrification is tied to crime in other
> parts of Asbury. While I enjoy places like the Watermark and Langosta Lounge,
> those $12 cocktails might actually have a political effect.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Educating for Justice <jim@> wrote:
> >
> > Jack et al,
> >
> > The reason that these violent episodes continue to happen is due to the fact
> > that the governing body and the majority of those who support(ed) them do
> > not want to deal with the social and economic realities that exist in Asbury
> > Park. You are talking about decades of a "spiral of violence." (Do a google
> > search for the term and you will get some excellent resources. I recommend
> > Dom Helder Camara's work.) If the root causes of this social and economic
> > decay are not addressed, then not only will the problems persist, but there
> > is the possibility that they will worsen.
> >
> > In my time on the City Council, I consistently attempted to engage my
> > colleagues in developing a systematic approach to dealing with our displaced
> > youth, homeless, unwashed and unwanted. As you can imagine, this was not
> > popular with them and it was not popular with many of the vocal political
> > supporters of the council majority.
> >
> > Dealing with the people in our society, whether in AP or beyond, that are
> > "on the margins" is not the stuff that gets one re-elected. So, the focus
> > remained on "re-development," which I find somewhat ironic, since, at its
> > heart, dealing with "blight," is in theory, supposed to help those on the
> > margins and re-integrate them into the mainstream of society. Again I say,
> > "in theory" because the political reality of "re-development" in Asbury Park
> > is geared towards moving "those people" out so that another class (read:
> > rich, white) can move in.
> >
> > So, I guess the question is, "Do you want to really dig in and do the
> > grueling, never-glamorous, work it would take of rehabilitating the EXISTING
> > community? Or do you want to just put 'those people' on buses and ship them
> > off somewhere else like most other towns do?" Either way, I think it is
> > best that we are honest with ourselves on this question and get to work
> > doing one or the other in stark, bold ways. If not, you will continue to
> > nibble around the edges of this stuff and the (sometimes dangerous) status
> > quo will remain.
> >
> > Peace, Jim Keady
> > --
> > Jim Keady, Director
> > Educating for Justice, Inc.
> > jim@
> > 732.988.7322
> > www.educatingforjustice.org
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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