I Know a few kids in town work for MM. Specifically two doing the lots, and I know 1 other who works on the boardwalk....but you're right, more need to be employed within the city
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "joeybearnj" <joeybea...@yahoo.com> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:35:18 To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP A decent start would be actually employing kids/young adults from town on Cookman and the boardwalk instead of importing them from other towns. It is sad that I rarely see anyone from my neighborhood East of Memorial. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fast4u" <sharon_b283@...> wrote: > > > You misunderstood what he's saying. It's true, AP boardwalk, doesn't > have the crime, indicative of Sea Side Heights. I'm surprised also that > there hasn't been any uprisings since 1970, seeing that nothing > has been done on the West Side until now and it's generally an > obstacle course to get through the streets when they were all torn up > and what few businesses that thrive over there came close to closing, > no thanks to the City that "allowed" the out of County contractor > to disrespect the African American Community over there. > > What is it about Jim, that riles you to want to have harm visit him? > He valiantly speaks for ALL who live here, including me! I've lived > in Monmouth County over 40 years; 20 years in AP, 20 in Neptune and > 18 months in Belmar. Are you a part of the solution or part of the problem? > Gangs just didn't pop uo here. It was years in coming to > an area, depressed by poverty and unemployment. Substandard housing and > racial discrimination of all forms. > > Do you think the schools in AP got bad overnight? I've heard countless > stories about what really happened here. Sending districts began sending > their students to Ocean Township and Red Bank, making > Asbury Park virtually all Black/Hispanic and as far back as 1972, a > substandard school system. That's just for starters. So if a > man who happens to be white and a Christian in every sense, feels > passionate about anyone not living their dream, you want harm to come to? > > Please, you sound just like the rest of the "newbies", who have no clue that > AP is NOT SoHo South, but a microcosm of everything that's > wrong with this country. When 2 million Blacks and Hispanics are > incarcerated, yet make up 12% of the population, something is definitely > wrong with this picture. If teachers aren't teaching our kids, I say fire > them all and get some who are interested in teaching > us the way I was taught 50 years ago. I believe too, the Police, > Firefighters and Emergency technicians have more than they can handle. > > The State Police have patroled Asbury's streets ever since the riots. > The Authorities need to get to the bottom of how sophisticated, gangs > have become. They operate out of the prisons and offer unsupervised > youths a "glamorous" life, money and a false sense of security, where > none is offered at home. Television offers up a glamorous lifestyle > to youths living in the ghetto, promising them "bling" like the pros have. > Role models begin at home. My son works a gang intervention > program. Instead of criticizing someone's "opinion", you should > offer help, but you're too busy texting on your smart phone! > I know Jim and he works for JUSTICE for ALL! > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: > > > > To a certain degree, I actually agree with that. Our boardwalk per say, > > does not have the same criminal element as Seasides boardwalk. Any given > > night Monday thru Friday there is at least one stabbing/fight in Seaside, > > not to mention their boardwalk is infested with Snooki's and Situations > > alike. Which thankfully we have avoided for the most part. > > > > Also, keep in mind, many visitors do not see the Asbury crime first hand > > like us residents. 99% of the Crime in AP takes place off the boardwalk. > > Creating a nice "cover" for the book that is AP. Very few of these visitors > > read about the crime because the APP is hardly read outside the immediate > > area. God forbid the TriCity mention any crime... > > > > The city officials and MM have done a great job of pulling the wool over > > our summer guests eyes, which plays right into Mr Keady's email from > > yesterday > > > > I would have loved to have dropped the guy from the Sand Witch off at > > Boston Way and had him revisit his statement again lol > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "hmelissar" <hmelissar@> > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:33:40 > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I haven't written on here in a long time, but this episode of people almost > > being shot in their houses while they are sleeping, and the statistic that > > there have been 10 shootings in Asbury last month alone, make me very > > distressed. Jim, I think you are right. I don't know anything about the > > City Council, but thank you for your service on it. It sounds very > > frustrating. > > > > Yesterday I overhead a conversation at The Sand Witch on the AP Boardwalk > > that has stuck with me: a man, a tourist from I'm not sure where, was > > chatting with the restaurant owner, comparing the AP boardwalk to other > > boardwalks in the state. He said that he heard that Seaside Heights had a > > bunch of arrests (I am paraphrasing here) on July 4th and 5th, and as a > > result they closed down, and the Sand Witch owner said, yeah, lots of > > homeless people starting fights, drug addicts, etc in Seaside. Lots of > > hoodlums. Because of Snooki, the clubs are packed, but that's about it. > > And the tourist guy's response: "yeah, no hoodlums here." I was > > surprised-thought the guy was being sarcastic, making a joke, but he was > > serious- obviously he had no knowledge that a big part of Asbury is a gang > > haven, drugs, crime, etc. I guess the gentrification of the AP boardwalk is > > complete. Weird. > > > > Sometimes I wonder if the beautiful new boardwalk will someday incite > > future riots, and how much the current gentrification is tied to crime in > > other parts of Asbury. While I enjoy places like the Watermark and Langosta > > Lounge, those $12 cocktails might actually have a political effect. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Educating for Justice <jim@> wrote: > > > > > > Jack et al, > > > > > > The reason that these violent episodes continue to happen is due to the > > > fact > > > that the governing body and the majority of those who support(ed) them do > > > not want to deal with the social and economic realities that exist in > > > Asbury > > > Park. You are talking about decades of a "spiral of violence." (Do a > > > google > > > search for the term and you will get some excellent resources. I > > > recommend > > > Dom Helder Camara's work.) If the root causes of this social and economic > > > decay are not addressed, then not only will the problems persist, but > > > there > > > is the possibility that they will worsen. > > > > > > In my time on the City Council, I consistently attempted to engage my > > > colleagues in developing a systematic approach to dealing with our > > > displaced > > > youth, homeless, unwashed and unwanted. As you can imagine, this was not > > > popular with them and it was not popular with many of the vocal political > > > supporters of the council majority. > > > > > > Dealing with the people in our society, whether in AP or beyond, that are > > > "on the margins" is not the stuff that gets one re-elected. So, the focus > > > remained on "re-development," which I find somewhat ironic, since, at its > > > heart, dealing with "blight," is in theory, supposed to help those on the > > > margins and re-integrate them into the mainstream of society. Again I > > > say, > > > "in theory" because the political reality of "re-development" in Asbury > > > Park > > > is geared towards moving "those people" out so that another class (read: > > > rich, white) can move in. > > > > > > So, I guess the question is, "Do you want to really dig in and do the > > > grueling, never-glamorous, work it would take of rehabilitating the > > > EXISTING > > > community? Or do you want to just put 'those people' on buses and ship > > > them > > > off somewhere else like most other towns do?" Either way, I think it is > > > best that we are honest with ourselves on this question and get to work > > > doing one or the other in stark, bold ways. If not, you will continue to > > > nibble around the edges of this stuff and the (sometimes dangerous) status > > > quo will remain. > > > > > > Peace, Jim Keady > > > -- > > > Jim Keady, Director > > > Educating for Justice, Inc. > > > jim@ > > > 732.988.7322 > > > www.educatingforjustice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! 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