You do Boston Way and the law abiding citizens there, a slap in
the face! I understood EVERYTHING you said.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> Actually, I think you misunderstood what I was saying
>
> I mean, completely misunderstood everything I said, considering I basically
> said everything Mr Keady said.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "2fast4u" <sharon_b283@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:01:49
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP
>
>
> You misunderstood what he's saying. It's true, AP boardwalk, doesn't
> have the crime, indicative of Sea Side Heights. I'm surprised also that
> there hasn't been any uprisings since 1970, seeing that nothing
> has been done on the West Side until now and it's generally an
> obstacle course to get through the streets when they were all torn up
> and what few businesses that thrive over there came close to closing,
> no thanks to the City that "allowed" the out of County contractor
> to disrespect the African American Community over there.
>
> What is it about Jim, that riles you to want to have harm visit him?
> He valiantly speaks for ALL who live here, including me! I've lived
> in Monmouth County over 40 years; 20 years in AP, 20 in Neptune and
> 18 months in Belmar. Are you a part of the solution or part of the problem?
> Gangs just didn't pop uo here. It was years in coming to
> an area, depressed by poverty and unemployment. Substandard housing and
> racial discrimination of all forms.
>
> Do you think the schools in AP got bad overnight? I've heard countless
> stories about what really happened here. Sending districts began sending
> their students to Ocean Township and Red Bank, making
> Asbury Park virtually all Black/Hispanic and as far back as 1972, a
> substandard school system. That's just for starters. So if a
> man who happens to be white and a Christian in every sense, feels
> passionate about anyone not living their dream, you want harm to come to?
>
> Please, you sound just like the rest of the "newbies", who have no clue that
> AP is NOT SoHo South, but a microcosm of everything that's
> wrong with this country. When 2 million Blacks and Hispanics are
> incarcerated, yet make up 12% of the population, something is definitely
> wrong with this picture. If teachers aren't teaching our kids, I say fire
> them all and get some who are interested in teaching
> us the way I was taught 50 years ago. I believe too, the Police,
> Firefighters and Emergency technicians have more than they can handle.
>
> The State Police have patroled Asbury's streets ever since the riots.
> The Authorities need to get to the bottom of how sophisticated, gangs
> have become. They operate out of the prisons and offer unsupervised
> youths a "glamorous" life, money and a false sense of security, where
> none is offered at home. Television offers up a glamorous lifestyle
> to youths living in the ghetto, promising them "bling" like the pros have.
> Role models begin at home. My son works a gang intervention
> program. Instead of criticizing someone's "opinion", you should
> offer help, but you're too busy texting on your smart phone!
> I know Jim and he works for JUSTICE for ALL!
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
> >
> > To a certain degree, I actually agree with that. Our boardwalk per say,
> > does not have the same criminal element as Seasides boardwalk. Any given
> > night Monday thru Friday there is at least one stabbing/fight in Seaside,
> > not to mention their boardwalk is infested with Snooki's and Situations
> > alike. Which thankfully we have avoided for the most part.
> >
> > Also, keep in mind, many visitors do not see the Asbury crime first hand
> > like us residents. 99% of the Crime in AP takes place off the boardwalk.
> > Creating a nice "cover" for the book that is AP. Very few of these visitors
> > read about the crime because the APP is hardly read outside the immediate
> > area. God forbid the TriCity mention any crime...
> >
> > The city officials and MM have done a great job of pulling the wool over
> > our summer guests eyes, which plays right into Mr Keady's email from
> > yesterday
> >
> > I would have loved to have dropped the guy from the Sand Witch off at
> > Boston Way and had him revisit his statement again lol
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "hmelissar" <hmelissar@>
> > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:33:40
> > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gunshots in windows and ongoing crime in AP
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I haven't written on here in a long time, but this episode of people almost
> > being shot in their houses while they are sleeping, and the statistic that
> > there have been 10 shootings in Asbury last month alone, make me very
> > distressed. Jim, I think you are right. I don't know anything about the
> > City Council, but thank you for your service on it. It sounds very
> > frustrating.
> >
> > Yesterday I overhead a conversation at The Sand Witch on the AP Boardwalk
> > that has stuck with me: a man, a tourist from I'm not sure where, was
> > chatting with the restaurant owner, comparing the AP boardwalk to other
> > boardwalks in the state. He said that he heard that Seaside Heights had a
> > bunch of arrests (I am paraphrasing here) on July 4th and 5th, and as a
> > result they closed down, and the Sand Witch owner said, yeah, lots of
> > homeless people starting fights, drug addicts, etc in Seaside. Lots of
> > hoodlums. Because of Snooki, the clubs are packed, but that's about it.
> > And the tourist guy's response: "yeah, no hoodlums here." I was
> > surprised-thought the guy was being sarcastic, making a joke, but he was
> > serious- obviously he had no knowledge that a big part of Asbury is a gang
> > haven, drugs, crime, etc. I guess the gentrification of the AP boardwalk is
> > complete. Weird.
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder if the beautiful new boardwalk will someday incite
> > future riots, and how much the current gentrification is tied to crime in
> > other parts of Asbury. While I enjoy places like the Watermark and Langosta
> > Lounge, those $12 cocktails might actually have a political effect.
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Educating for Justice <jim@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jack et al,
> > >
> > > The reason that these violent episodes continue to happen is due to the
> > > fact
> > > that the governing body and the majority of those who support(ed) them do
> > > not want to deal with the social and economic realities that exist in
> > > Asbury
> > > Park. You are talking about decades of a "spiral of violence." (Do a
> > > google
> > > search for the term and you will get some excellent resources. I
> > > recommend
> > > Dom Helder Camara's work.) If the root causes of this social and economic
> > > decay are not addressed, then not only will the problems persist, but
> > > there
> > > is the possibility that they will worsen.
> > >
> > > In my time on the City Council, I consistently attempted to engage my
> > > colleagues in developing a systematic approach to dealing with our
> > > displaced
> > > youth, homeless, unwashed and unwanted. As you can imagine, this was not
> > > popular with them and it was not popular with many of the vocal political
> > > supporters of the council majority.
> > >
> > > Dealing with the people in our society, whether in AP or beyond, that are
> > > "on the margins" is not the stuff that gets one re-elected. So, the focus
> > > remained on "re-development," which I find somewhat ironic, since, at its
> > > heart, dealing with "blight," is in theory, supposed to help those on the
> > > margins and re-integrate them into the mainstream of society. Again I
> > > say,
> > > "in theory" because the political reality of "re-development" in Asbury
> > > Park
> > > is geared towards moving "those people" out so that another class (read:
> > > rich, white) can move in.
> > >
> > > So, I guess the question is, "Do you want to really dig in and do the
> > > grueling, never-glamorous, work it would take of rehabilitating the
> > > EXISTING
> > > community? Or do you want to just put 'those people' on buses and ship
> > > them
> > > off somewhere else like most other towns do?" Either way, I think it is
> > > best that we are honest with ourselves on this question and get to work
> > > doing one or the other in stark, bold ways. If not, you will continue to
> > > nibble around the edges of this stuff and the (sometimes dangerous) status
> > > quo will remain.
> > >
> > > Peace, Jim Keady
> > > --
> > > Jim Keady, Director
> > > Educating for Justice, Inc.
> > > jim@
> > > 732.988.7322
> > > www.educatingforjustice.org
> > >
> > >
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