Any concert venue at the Casino would be in a newly built arena portion, which
is to look and feel like the old. That would mean the concert venue is indoors
and likely sound proofed.
The only venue I can think of that in the future would be an outdoor
performance space would be the Arthur Pryor bandshell... and there seems to be
no future for that right now.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote:
>
> That is something I can get on board with.......
>
> I personally don't feel as if moving the outdoor stage to the Casino site is
> going to make a difference with the sound. As this seems to be the main
> concern
>
> If no one believes me, grab yourself a 6pk and head to my backyard during any
> Summer Stage performance. I live on the corner of 5th and Comstock and hear
> almost every concert very clearly.
>
> Moving a stage and sound system 200 yrds to a more breeze filled area is not
> going to help.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:38
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?
>
> Well since the Pony and all that property is privately owned we (you, me,
> city) cant tell them what to do with it. But I think its our recommendation
> that the summer stage move eventually. I see no problem with interior
> performance spaces on Ocean with residences if you soundproof them.
> Personally I would not want to see the physical Pony moved. I am even ok with
> leaving the summer stage there but I cant see how you can build residences
> next to it. These are my personal opinions.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
> >
> > So is leaving the Pony as is, for indoor entertainment (non summer stage
> > usage) and building a Summer stage on the casino site (strictly outdoor
> > usage) an option being discussed?
> >
> > Or is the Pony not going to be used as a music venue at all, and all Pony
> > entertainment being moved to Casino site?
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@>
> > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:17:41
> > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reason for Cookman ave closure?
> >
> > I do not think its clear from the recommendations. And I think it was the
> > concerns I had which is the incompatibility of intense entertainment and
> > residential uses on the same site(s). The City learned its lesson as well
> > on that with Cookman. That's why proper zoning specifies uses etc in
> > certain areas.
> >
> > In the original plan, the southern end of Ocean Ave is supposed to be the
> > heart of intense entertainment uses. In reality, those uses are allowed
> > almost anywhere in the waterfront area under the current plan. So if we
> > agree that the southern end and especially the end of Cookman and Asbury
> > and Ocean is what I called "ground zero", then you have to consider what's
> > compatible and what's not. I voiced concern that if you wanted to have
> > intense entertainment uses (like the Pony's Summer Stage) on Ocean Ave, how
> > could you develop residences above these uses on the same blocks? And if
> > you agreed then that would preclude (in my mind) residences on most, if not
> > all of the blocks between Ocean and Kingsley.
> >
> > That of course was not going to be given up by the developer. And so
> > keeping in mind that you can soundproof etc (expensive) I think we are
> > recommending that the Pony building stay and be incorporated in
> > developments (similar to what you suggest) but that the summer stage be
> > moved to the demolished Casino site. What the committee is recommending is
> > that entertainment uses become less intense along Ocean as you head north
> > and to make the most intense uses be at Ground Zero. Reasonable I think.
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "arcman210" <acme87rangers@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a reason or clarification as to why the Stone Pony was viewed as
> > > removable from the site? (pardon my ignorance if this has already been
> > > explained, but in the report I couldn't find reasoning behind this move)
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dsher4@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Rather than attack i will ask dan what the reason for the Cookman
> > > > > avenue closure is? at first blush i don't agree with it either but
> > > > > perhaps there is a logical reason. Dan can you please comment?
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you were at the meeting it was explained. The committee is against
> > > > it. We essentially killed it when proposed by the developer. What we
> > > > did at the end, just to be fair was say okay, you (Partners) pay for an
> > > > independent traffic consultant to study the proposal and its effect on
> > > > traffic. The developer's idea was to create this great big public
> > > > plaza. We think we already have one further east. But you have to keep
> > > > in mind how we approached this entire process. To be open minded and
> > > > fair. Personally I do not think it has a chance but lets see what the
> > > > traffic consultant says. So in reality, and what maybe is not too clear
> > > > from the documents is that the committee really rejected the idea and
> > > > is only recommending that a traffic consultant and the city engineer
> > > > look into it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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