Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand?
I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of spaces 
"Resident Parking Only".

Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey first? Find 
out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve spaces for 
residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have amounted to 3 
spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've said, the 
current system is great for the city, but useless for residents such as myself. 
What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a space to use it? If I 
bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps 24 days when visitors 
took up all the spaces?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...> wrote:
>
> Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area off season 
> or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert at the Pony 
> there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my entire point 
> about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences near or in the 
> middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. You will not be 
> able to solve them. I do not think anyone has.  
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday.
> > 
> > Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), 
> > what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until 
> > midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley?
> > 
> > My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and  
> > Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will 
> > see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand.
> > 
> > Does this make sense to anybody?
> > 
> > I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has  2 
> > choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the 
> > corner, or on the 300 block.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From NYT
> > > 
> > > Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN
> > > <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/>
> > > Not  to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when
> > > Manhattan's last  old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday,
> > > it meant the end of a  symbolic target for some rebellious spirits.
> > >   [The Day] The Day <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/>
> > > Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news.
> > > 
> > > To  them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of 
> > > movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his 
> > > horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In 
> > > Australia, the No Parking Meters Party
> > > <http://noparkingmetersparty.org/>   came into being a few years ago,
> > > running candidates in state elections  in New South Wales with a slogan
> > > that "the basis of democracy is  non-dictated policy."
> > > 
> > > Writing about the final curtain
> > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\
> > > arking-meter.html>   for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the
> > > day after the first  one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum
> > > alluded on Monday  to the 1967 film "Cool Hand Luke
> > > <http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\
> > > 838C679EDE> ."  In its opening scene, the title character, played by
> > > Paul Newman, is  arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for
> > > drunkenly lopping off  the heads of meters with a pipe cutter.
> > > 
> > > Back in 1967, some people  in the New York theater where I saw it
> > > cheered as Luke went from meter  to meter, methodically decapitating
> > > each one.   To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free
> > > spirit's  rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of
> > > their more  soulless creations.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps those same people would have pumped  their fists joyfully had
> > > they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's  last single-space meter
> > > from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in  Harlem. Not that
> > > meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of  thousands remain
> > > in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year  or so, the
> > > city's Transportation Department expects multispace  Muni-Meters to
> > > be the rule everywhere.
> > > 
> > > The relationship between  some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can
> > > run deep, even as the city  becomes ever more bicycle conscious —
> > > perhaps especially as the city  becomes more bike conscious. You
> > > don't have to own a car to understand  that. I haven't owned one
> > > in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot  right in front of my
> > > apartment building is so alluring that it almost  makes me want to rush
> > > off to buy something to fill the space.
> > > 
> > > Throughout  Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt for a
> > > perfect spot,  one where a driver may leave the car for days without
> > > fear of a summons,  is no less an obsession than the pursuit of the
> > > white whale was for  Ahab.
> > > 
> > > Politicians certainly understand this. It helps explain why,  over the
> > > years, they have steadily expanded the exemptions to the  alternate-side
> > > parking rules, usually in the name of paying tribute to  some religious
> > > or ethnic group.
> > > 
> > > The Transportation Department now recognizes 32 holidays
> > > <http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/motorist/scrintro.shtml#calendar2011>
> > > ,  with a total of 42 days, when the rules are suspended and sanitation 
> > > trucks are thus unable to sweep. It is one of New York's
> > > peculiarities  that the chosen method for honoring various
> > > constituencies is to leave  the streets dirty.
> > > 
> > > With a run of Jewish, Roman Catholic, Muslim,  Hindu and legal holidays
> > > upon us, there will be a 44-day stretch, from  Sept. 29 to Nov. 11,
> > > during which alternate-side parking regulations  will be lifted
> > > one-third of the time.
> > > 
> > > For me, the rebel's romantic  concept of parking meters as an enemy
> > > no longer holds, if it ever did.  An opposite thought is more dominant:
> > > Why is public space, a most  precious commodity in this city, allowed to
> > > be used as a private storage  area?
> > > 
> > > Years ago, I asked in a column if it would be all right for  a New
> > > Yorker in a crowded apartment to put a chest of drawers on wheels  and
> > > leave it at curbside
> > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/nyregion/nyc-alternate-side-of-realit\
> > > y-parking-rules.html>   — observing all parking rules and taking a
> > > chance on theft. The very  idea was, of course, absurd; you can't
> > > store personal property on the  street.
> > > 
> > > Why, then, is it O.K. to do that when the wheeled property is called a
> > > car?
> > > 
> > > If  public space is to be used for this private purpose, perhaps what
> > > the  city needs to do is greatly expand the areas where people must pay
> > > for  the privilege.
> > > 
> > > Not that this could be done without fierce  resistance from some on the
> > > City Council and in the State Legislature.  Generally speaking, when it
> > > comes to the proper place of the automobile  in this crowded city, what
> > > we have, as Cool Hand Luke found out in his  own way, is a failure to
> > > communicate.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>




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