Ram-da and C-da, I am indeed thinking of setting up a firm in US - I'm told even on student visa one can set up a US firm as long as you rope in someone else (US citizen ) to do the dirty work :-)
I think a reading of the extremely pirated book : What they don't teach at Harvard Business School --would be useful to anyone interested in building confidence to start a business. I do have some business experience since my teen years -helping my father set-up a iron junk trading business. Slow and steady wins the race. He had no degree in business or commerce -just advice from established players in the field. I did an MBA from a small rural town in India - the kind which Cambridge city was (near Boston) when Harvard Univ was set up -and the city was named after Cambridge Univ from which many of its residents had graduated. In today's world of Opensource courseware (liek MIT's gift to the world) even univs in India or Assam in particular - can teach what is taught at Harvard. In that sense those who have gone abroad /outside Assam and got business experience can certainly use their contacts and skills. Regards. Umesh ****A start though maybe to introduce a course in > entrepreneurship > > (specifically >designed for the local market > there). > > > > > > *** It is ALL about risks and benefits Ram. IF > someone can make a decent > > living > > WITHOUT taking the risks implicit in enterprise, > and one does not yearn > > for those EXTRA benefits or earnings that COULD > come from business, then you > > won't see entrepreneurship. Almost all of us > kharkhowa expats here have an > > education that ensures a decent living without the > risks involved. And most > > of us are quite happy with our lot, without the > desire to acquire MORE, that > > could come from a profitable business. So why take > on the hassles of > > business/enterprise? > > > > > > > > > > >From what I gather, Harvard is one of the few > institutions that offer a > > course >in entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their > Business School. > > > > > > *** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or > would he :-)? --- Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C'da, > > >*** No, that is not what I wrote. The comment was > about the expertise of > the >preachers. Surprised that you who have a keen > eye for words and phrases > and their >hidden meanings, not to mention the ones > staring at the reader > > You are right. Must have slipped thru somehow. Just > making these preachers > the same as the actual bidnessmen. So, what you are > saying is that there are > very few experts (at least the ones we come across) > who are cabable of > giving sound advice on business startup, and lest we > forget, on capital > acquisition. > > >*** Are you implying "maahor maar dekhi tile' bet > melile'" here >Ram :-)? > > Well, one never knows how far you could dig into > those dreaded archives, and > fish out something. Just not taking chances here :) > :) > > >>Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our > ulfa leaders too, did you? > > >*** No I did not. Mainly because I don't know any. > Do you know some? If you > do, >perhaps* you* can pose the question to them. > > Of course, I don't know any either. But I thought, > since you were the one > asking these tricky(pesky) questions, and since you > are so 'fair and > balanced' you perhaps would have made sure to ask > both parties :Sulfa and > ulfa. Both have managed to raise huge amounts of > capital (and without the > proverbial collateral). > > >*** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or > would he :-)? > > Poor Umesh! He just took the Education degree, not > the bidness, and who > knows whether he took the ethics course (from which, > of course, most Indians > are exempt) :) :) > > --Ram > > > > > > > On 9/26/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Ram: > > > > > > > > >You are not suggesting that a vast majority of > Kharkhowas are clueless > > about starting a business, are you?, ie no > entrepreneurial spirit - whether > > they are in Assam or here? > > > > > > > > > > > > *** No, that is not what I wrote. The comment was > about the expertise of > > the preachers. Surprised that you who have a keen > eye for words and phrases > > and their hidden meanings, not to mention the ones > staring at the reader, > > did not get it :-). > > > > > > However we DID examine the reasons for so few of > us kharkhowa expats . > > being in business enterprises, even though here in > the USA for example, it > > is far,far of easier to get into, than it is in > India, or Assam. But it is > > NOT because of a defective gene as some like to > suggest :-). Our > > risk-averseness has many reasons, all are > sociologically and educationally > > conditioned responses. > > > > > > > > > > >Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our > ulfa leaders too, did you? > > > > > > *** No I did not. Mainly because I don't know any. > Do you know some? If > > you do, perhaps* you* can pose the question to > them. > > > > > > However it is a fact, that ULFA leaders are/were > far more entrepreneurial > > and courageous risk-takers with leadership > abilities than the average > > population. That is why you also saw so many SULFA > cadres get into it too. > > They also had a huge advantage as SULFAs: Free > capital, bankrolled by the " > > government of the people", without any requirement > for paying back; a > > private system of justice by which they could > ensure market share, > > collection of payments and debts and ensure bid > winning. I know some nasty > > people decried that, but aren't those the right > requisites for business > > enterprises ? > > > > > > > > > > >Hehehe! that does it for me. I will try not to > suggest any ideas for > > >entrepreneurship (at this time at least) > > > > > > *** Are you implying "maahor maar dekhi tile' bet > melile'" here Ram :-)? > > > > > > >A start though maybe to introduce a course in > entrepreneurship > > (specifically >designed for the local market > there). > > > > > > *** It is ALL about risks and benefits Ram. IF > someone can make a decent > > living > > WITHOUT taking the risks implicit in enterprise, > and one does not yearn > > for those EXTRA benefits or earnings that COULD > come from business, then you > > won't see entrepreneurship. Almost all of us > kharkhowa expats here have an > > education that ensures a decent living without the > risks involved. And most > > of us are quite happy with our lot, without the > desire to acquire MORE, that > > could come from a profitable business. So why take > on the hassles of > > business/enterprise? > > > > > > > > > > >From what I gather, Harvard is one of the few > institutions that offer a > > course >in entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their > Business School. > > > > > > *** Perhaps Umesh will blaze a trail here. Or > would he :-)? > > > > > > c-da > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:35 AM -0500 9/26/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > > > C'da, > > > > > Actually several years back I CHALLENGED another > bunch of >such advisers > > in Assam Net to describe HOW they would start. > >There was NOT a single > > reply . > > > > You are not suggesting that a vast majority of > Kharkhowas are clueless > > about starting a business, are you?, ie no > entrepreneurial spirit - whether > > they are in Assam or here? > > > > > > >Then I challenged a prakton-Ulfa, or SULFA, > leader > > > then doing doing business in Assam and who too > were advising >others in > > Assam Net to take up business ( obviously as an > >antidote to insurgency), to > > tell us how one might begin, how to get >capital > if one did not have > > collateral > > > > Now, of course didn't happen to ask any of our > ulfa leaders too, did you? > > They might be willing to divulge how to get > capital without a collateral. I > > hear they are pretty adept at it. :) > > > > > I have those exchanges in my archives. If > someone would like to >read > > them, let me know. > > > > Hehehe! that does it for me. I will try not to > suggest any ideas for > > entrepreneurship (at this time at least). > > > > A start though maybe to introduce a course in > entrepreneurship > > (specifically designed for the local market > there). From what I gather, > > Harvard is one of the few institutions that offer > a course in > > entrepreneurship (and ethics) in their Business > School. > > > > > > > > --Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/26/06, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I have gotten used to the well-meaning advice > and exhortations of our > > > fellow kharkhowas about how to pull Assam out of > its miseries by > > > starting industries,by being entrepreneurs and > so forth. I smile to > > > myself, wondering why these advisers work for > wages, mostly clerical > > > work, far from home , in environments where it > is far easier to > > > become entrepreneurs . > > > > > > Something is patently contradictory here isn't > it? > > > > > > I have pondered over it often. My guess, so far, > is that, well > > > meaning as they are, they have NO clue :-). > > > > > > Actually several years back I CHALLENGED another > bunch of such > > > advisers in Assam Net to describe HOW they would > start. There was NOT > > > a single reply. Then I challenged a > prakton-Ulfa, or SULFA, leader > > > then doing doing business in Assam and who too > were advising others > > > in Assam Net to take up business ( obviously as > an antidote to > > > insurgency), to tell us how one might begin, how > to get capital if > > > one did not have collateral, how to build a > market, how to > > > distribute, how to get an operating line of > credit, so on and so > > > forth. And last but not the least, how to make > sure of getting paid > > > for delivering goods or services, and if there > is a contract default, > > > how to go about resolving such a dispute, who to > rely on? > > > > > > The silence was deafening. > > > > > > I have those exchanges in my archives. If > someone would like to read > > > them, let me know. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > assam mailing list > > > assam@assamnet.org > > > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > Umesh Sharma 5121 Lackawanna ST College Park, MD 20740 USA Current temp. address: 5649 Yalta Place , Vancouver, Canada 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone] Canada # (607) 221-9433 Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 weblog: http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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