C'da, > *** I can't say anything about Bihar or others. But Look at Tamil > Nadu--is it governed well to your knowledge? How about Andhra? And > Gujarat?
That is precisely my point. Some states may actually benefit from autonomy. While others like Bihar will still have to be spoon-fed. Imagine an autonomous Bihar. It would put the wild west to shame. And where does Assam stand? Will autonomy be good/bad for Assam? If yes, how much and what doses? What does Assam envision being autonomous? You may be the better person to answer those questions. You & I know that with autonomy comes a responsibilty. What happens if after a few years the experiment doesn't work for Assam. In spite of these doubts/questions, I still believe that some sort of autonomy is good for the states. If granted, autonomy should be available to all states, not just a few. *** Who is arguing here about autonomy for autonomy's sake? In fact > if I remember correctly, other than your very faulty response, other > supporters of autonomy could not articulate a single sentence why > they propose autonomy for Assam. Now, now C'da, you don't expect anyone to fess up that they were demanding autonomy for autonomy's sake, do you? :-). The demands or desires for autonomy or independence cannot be just slogans and 'feel-good' attributes. These are serious matters, and as such people who want these must come up with valid reasons. I think, I pretty well know the reasons why states in India should be given some sort of autonomy, and I can list those if you desire. But I would like to hear from others too. >They would be the ones who fit your description, and they usually argue from >your side of the divide Heh!heh!, one would hope there are no sides, and if they do exist, we are all on the right side :-) BTW: I hope you had a chance to read about the Singaporean style of 'democracy' Do we still want to emulate Singapore? --Ram > > >I agree with you on the autonomous part. Though, I am not sure if the > >'govern' part will work well for some states (like Bihar). > > > > > >Autonomy for the sake of better goveranace, I agree, but > >NOT autonomy for autonomy's sake. > > *** Who is arguing here about autonomy for autonomy's sake? In fact > if I remember correctly, other than your very faulty response, other > supporters of autonomy could not articulate a single sentence why > they propose autonomy for Assam. They would be the ones who fit your > description, and they usually argue from your side of the divide :-). > > c-da > > > > > > > > > > > At 8:29 AM -0500 5/19/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > >C'da > > > >> Are you getting into the Texas shhotiong from the hip mode too? > > > >Yup! we Texans shoot first, ask questions later :-) > > > >You are right, must have confused Singapore to some other country. > >Asides that, though the facts still remain., ie solutions that work in > >Singapore may not work for country like India, specially the > >curtailing of 'rights' part. > > > >The closest we came to something like that was during Indira's > >emergency. Few liked it, and during those 2 years, India actually lost > >productivity (I read this some years ago, could be wrong) > > > >>That is why those who want to govern themselves better ought to be > >able to do >so, as either smaller independent units or truly > >autonomous smaller entities-- >like Assam. > > > >I agree with you on the autonomous part. Though, I am not sure if the > >'govern' part will work well for some states (like Bihar). Maybe, > >autonomy should be given in small portions, and see how it works. > > > >You know, 'give a man enough rope, and he will hang himself' shouldn't > >be the motto. Autonomy for the sake of better goveranace, I agree, but > >NOT autonomy for autonomy's sake. > > > >--Ram > > > > > > > >On 5/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ram: > >> > >> Are you getting into the Texas shhotiong from the hip mode too? > >> > >> >-- its a country by itself and is ruled basically by a dictator. > >> > >> Look up: http://www.travelblog.org/World/sn-gov.html > >> > >> Singapore is a Pariliamentary Republic, with the President, the CEO, > >> elected > >> democratically. The Parliament is too. > >> > >> > >> You also complained that Singapore is very small--thus not fair to > >>compare it > >> with India. Well, duh! Why do you think some of us have been attempting to > >> explain, to no avail, that India's size and diversity is an > >>impediment to its > >> governance and its progress. That is why those who want to govern > >> themselves better ought to be able to do so, as either smaller independent > >> units or truly autonomous smaller entities-- like Assam. And in areas > >> where > >> size is an advantage, they can have treaties, such as for trade, > >>or defense, as > >> a federation. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Date: 2005/05/19 Thu AM 01:42:00 EDT > >> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > CC: Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > >> > Subject: Re: [Assam] It takes a village > >> > > >> > KJD, > >> > > >> > In the case of Singapore, its a country by itself and is ruled > >> > basically by a dictator. Thus the government is answerable to itself, > >> > and people have no rights, and bureaucracy is cut-short. > >> > > >> > As for Guwahati, the size may be small compared to a Singapore, but > >> > the City is answerable in some capacity to the the DC, the GOA, which > >> > in turn to the GOI. > >> > > >> > Its not as if the mayor of Guwahati can rule with an iron fist to > > > > enforce cleaniness. > >> > In Singapore even chewing gum is banned (so I have heard). Do you > >> > think its possible for the mayor, the CM, Governor or even the PM ban > >> > tamul-paan chewing? > >> > > >> > --Ram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 5/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Sarangapani, > >> > > > >> > > What disadvantage does the city of Guwahati have ,in terms of > >> size,which > >> > > renders it to remain so unclean? I wonder!! > >> > > > >> > > KJD > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Assam mailing list > >> > > Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > >> > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > >> > > > >> > > Mailing list FAQ: > >> > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > >> > > To unsubscribe or change options: > >> > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Assam mailing list > >> > Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu > >> > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > >> > > >> > Mailing list FAQ: > >> > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > >> > To unsubscribe or change options: > >> > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > >> > > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam