ArnyK...if your goal is to educate non-technical people, such as myself, with regard to the true efficacy of any particular piece of hardware or software, I'd suggest that you're going about it all wrong. If your goal is to denigrate and cow the great unwashed (which includes a lot of us) into falling in line with your particular point of view, then I guess, have at 'er.
I think Archimago is awesome and I've learned so much from him. Why? Mostly because he's willing to take a piece of equipment, an audio track, or piece of software and actually put in "on the bench" before he voices his opinions and conclusions. Had you, somehow, got your hands on the REGEN and put it on your bench (as Archimago is trying to do), or thought to have an in depth conversation with John Swenson and, in the context of a dialogue (which you claim to value highly), examine his engineering assumptions prior to declaring the REGEN a sham product, I would have benefited 100X from the knowledge you could have shared. As it is, folks like me wind up finding ourselves in betwixt and between. John Swenson was, indeed, a long time contributor in this forum and, as I've said, seemed to have the respect of even some of the resident "objectivists" around here. So, what I am left with is his reputation and explanations of his work and your protestations of shamery and shillery which, quite unfairly btw, extended to me, personally. Somewhere in your postings, there is clearly a knowledgeable and pretty smart dude but, as I said before, that message gets muddled in your histrionics and somewhat overwhelming desire to be right. How about asking the folks at Uptone Audio for a demo model and do a test it for us or do a dual evaluation project with Archimago? Clearly there are a hundreds of folks interested in whether or not this device is really worth their money. But, until then, you become exactly what you rail against which is someone who jumps to a conclusion about something without doing any research or testing. Absent some unbiased testing and evaluation, if any of the rest of us are curious, and I am, we'll read other peoples' listening impressions, probably spend the $175, order one, and see if we hear a difference---just as a lot of us do with amps and speakers. If not, it goes back. If you really do want to assist us in not adding to the pile of worthless audio devices sitting in our respective basements (speaking somewhat metaphorically), do as Archimago does and stop with the pedantic rants. Rg System information ------------------------ Main: Vortexbox/Squeezelite > USB> Benchmark DAC2 D > LFD LE IV Signature amp > Revel Performa F208 speakers. Home Theatre: Touch (Wired) > Pioneer VSX 919 > Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1, Touch FW 7.8.0-r16754. LMS 7.9.0 - 0.71.20150313git1426153261 on a 1TB Micro Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.3. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103684 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles