Oh god, the drugs are really kicking in now Richard, these ones are called the 
Pilliga greens, please stop I think I might split .


Justin Sinclair 
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> On 4 Mar 2016, at 13:33, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> yes, it is recommended that all budding and  novice Comp pilots complete a 
> Speedweek or similar before their first Comp.  
> 
> when Paul Mander runs Speedweek there is emphasis is on Comp preparation. 
> Final Glides and FG planning is part of that. A great place with a structured 
> low stress environment to learn and practice these key aspects.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jarek Mosiejewski <jar...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> From my observations, circuit finishes happen most often with novice 
>> competition pilots who are not yet comfortable with straight-ins and / or 
>> unable to fine-tune the final glide arriving with too much altitude.
>> Sometimes you may also see this when the designated duty runway  is so 
>> congested that it is safer to join the circuit to an alternative runway. 
>> Regards 
>> Jarek
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> "Gary Stevenson" <gstev...@bigpond.com>
>> 
>> To:
>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>, "M-12148 Mosiejewski Jaroslaw" 
>> <jar...@optusnet.com.au>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 4 Mar 2016 12:59:57 +1100
>> Subject:
>> RE: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, it can happen, but only on good blue days, when your normal 
>> inter-thermal glide speed is about 100 knots or so, and you are already on, 
>> or close to, final glide . If your VNE is say 135 knots, and  you 
>> find/stumble upon a nice energy line in the blue, you can be at VNE 
>> surprisingly quickly. On Cu days, you can usually allow for this by looking 
>> well ahead, starting the final glide early, and gradually pulling up under 
>> the clouds onto the optimal final glide path.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Frawley
>> Sent: Friday, 4 March 2016 11:49 AM
>> To: M-12148 Mosiejewski, Jaroslaw; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring 
>> in Australia.
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> expect for the rare occasion, if you come in with that much energy on final 
>> glide in a comp, then you screwed up the planning of the final glide
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 11:42 AM, Jarek Mosiejewski <jar...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There are no low level finished in the comps, the vast majority of comp 
>> finishes are straight-ins which are really long finals.  The rest, for 
>> people who have too much energy for a straight in, they are regular circuits.
>> Most comps explicitly forbid low level, high energy finishes (aka bit ups).
>> Regards 
>> Jarek
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From:
>> 
>> 
>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> To:
>> 
>> 
>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>> 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent:
>> 
>> 
>> Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:30:20 +1100
>> 
>> Subject:
>> 
>> 
>> Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:14 AM, DMcD <slutsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It's probable that the
>> statistics overall are not enough to prove anything one way or
>> another.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well, sure, you could give strong-feelings-and-make-believe a try if you 
>> want, but if you can’t baseline a “before” and “after” picture I’m not sure 
>> how you’ll work out whether or not you’ve advanced the state of the art.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There have been a significant number of accidents and fatalities in
>> the last few years during comps which were related a style of flying
>> which is unique to comps… low finishes. 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is that a true statement?
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This type of accident is rare or non-existent outside comp flying.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is that a true statement?
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>   - mark
>> 
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