Mike, I don't think Pprune www.pprune.org is the right place to push for changes. From my readings on the site, some Forum topics are interesting, however most are misinformed opinions made by anonymous (unless you know their Pprune indents) people, the ru does stand for Rumour. I know that the people in the ivory towers do monitor Pprune Forums, some are monitoring AusSoaring too, however I don't believe they are threatened by or take policy guidance from it.
There is another site similar to Pprune, for the Australian scene is called The Australian General Aviation Community Forum www.agacf.org . I have not explored this site. Many of you may know it, others may find it interesting. I do know that GAPAN has made representation this week to Howard,Anderson and Co to have the next phase of NAS at least delayed. We have to wait and see the outcome of their efforts. SDF -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2003 15:47 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] NAS Changes At 10:38 AM 30/10/03 +1100, you wrote: >The real treats have been identified > >Other gliders, >The Tug and, >Transiting aircraft (particularly VFR) many of these guys have no idea about >gliders and their cross country capabilities, and think we circle close to >airfields all day > >Our site (Bunyan) is close to Cooma and Polo Flat. Our location and radio >contact details are in ERSA, our airfield is on all current airways charts >including instrument approach plates, and will appear on the next Melbourne >WAC edition. >Despite this we continually have VFR and Turbine RPT traffic blast past >unannounced. >Recently we even had a Helicopter land on our airfield unannounced and >without permission during a weekend operation. I also know a chap who >fortunately no longer flies, who was flying turbine aircraft, his attitude >was I'm doing 240 kts >and the rest of you can get out of my way, your all dangerous (his words). > >All the airspace reforms, radios, transponders, ADSB, etc are useless while >we have pilots flying with that kind attitude. > >Keep your eyes open. > >SDF Which is why the NASIG folks talk about the required cultural change in Australian aviation. If you like what the changes will do for gliding and VFR GA then it might be an idea to get on to pprune, register and put in your 2c worth in support. Don't let the regional airline pilots and the people Stuart talks anbout above have all the running. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring