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Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:31, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > Appeared this morning. Runs to 60pp vs 20pp for the Home Affairs > submission. > > > https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321 > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:55, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'd also venture the roll call for Friday is in no small degree window >> dressing for Saturday's Wentworth turnout. I did forward my letter to PJCIS >> onto Kerryn Phelps. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Paul Wilkins >> >> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:48, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The Committee is currently accepting submissions to this review. >>> Submissions should be provided no later than *12pm, Friday, 12 October >>> 2018.* An initial Public Hearing is expected to be held on Friday, 19 >>> October 2018. *Further Public Hearings will be scheduled for late >>> October or early November 2018.* >>> >>> >>> *https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018 >>> <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018>* >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Optus (Singtel)'s submission was soft touch, saying they'll impose >>>> whatever's required by government dictate. Pretty much to be expected given >>>> their parent company is Singapore based. As Rob points out, most making >>>> submissions won't be heard from. I'd go so far as to say this is by design. >>>> Some very critical views are not to be heard from. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Paul Wilkins >>>> >>>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> The schedule for the first day of public hearings on the 19th of >>>>> October (this Friday) has been released: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=false >>>>> >>>>> For those who don't wish to download the PDF document, the following >>>>> parties are scheduled to speak on this day: >>>>> >>>>> * The Department of Home Affairs. >>>>> * The Law Council of Australia. This is an interesting one - it >>>>> appears (unless my eyes are failing me) that they did not make a >>>>> submission >>>>> at all (or at least not one that the PJCIS has chosen to publish - their >>>>> submission numbering goes to 66, yet their website counts only 64 >>>>> submissions - submissions 12 and 14 are missing). >>>>> * Optus "and others TBC". >>>>> * Ai Group "and others TBC" (interestingly, Ai Group is only one of >>>>> the parties involved in the cited submission - so they can't even >>>>> attribute >>>>> the submissions to the correct/complete groups). >>>>> * Amazon, BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" (noting that >>>>> the BSA submission is cited in the submissions pack for the day, but >>>>> Amazon's isn't - and nor is it listed on the main list of submissions). >>>>> * TBC. >>>>> >>>>> There's a pack of submissions (4 of them) relevant for the day - it's >>>>> here if anyone's keen (particularly useful given some of the oddities I'll >>>>> mention next): >>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=true >>>>> >>>>> Each is allocated a different time frame as well - DOHA have 60 >>>>> minutes allocated, the Law Council of Australia get 45 minutes, Optus "and >>>>> others TBC" get 45 minutes, Ai Group "and others TBC" receive 60 minutes, >>>>> Amazon, BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" receive 75 minutes, >>>>> and then the "TBC" section has a start time (3:15pm) but no finish time. >>>>> >>>>> It concerns me that as of nearly 9pm Sydney time on the 16th of >>>>> October that "and others TBC" and "TBC" is still undefined for hearings >>>>> starting on the 19th of October. I expressed an interest in participating >>>>> in the public hearings on behalf of ITPA very early on in the consultation >>>>> period - yet IF we do get invited to attend the public hearing on the >>>>> 19th, >>>>> they're giving me very little time to get myself down there (and to be >>>>> honest, I may not be able to attend at this late notice, given I would >>>>> have >>>>> to make arrangements both at home and at work for me to travel to Canberra >>>>> on Friday). I also can't start to plan for dates that aren't even >>>>> published yet. >>>>> >>>>> Another concern is that with "around 65" submissions made, only a very >>>>> small number of organisations have been invited to the public hearing - I >>>>> believe there was talk of further public hearing days been added, but >>>>> there's no indication of that on the PJCIS website at this stage - this is >>>>> particularly concerning when you look at some of the parties NOT yet >>>>> invited - organisations like Cisco, Telstra and Apple in particular given >>>>> that Optus, Amazon and BSA are invited). >>>>> >>>>> It will be interesting to see how things continue to run from here. >>>>> At this stage, I am not seeing evidence that the appropriate level and >>>>> breadth of consultation will take place to ensure an appropriate outcome >>>>> for Australia. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 17:37, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Robert, >>>>>> When in Canberra, don't look for any support from PJCIS Chairman >>>>>> Andrew Hastie, who is a Dutton supporter, and one of the leading >>>>>> conspirators in rolling Turnbull. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 12:45, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> PJCIS is listing 37 submissions - way down on the 343 that were made >>>>>>> to the Department of Home Affairs, but hopefully they'll actually get >>>>>>> read >>>>>>> and considered this time around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried to stick to ITPA's area of expertise (tehnology) in the hope >>>>>>> that other parties more qualified than us have focused on areas outside >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> technology - I have strong opinions in those areas, but thought it best >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> let experts make the points there. I also made it clear to the PJCIS >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> ITPA wishes to be invited to the public hearing, we'll see how that >>>>>>> goes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:26, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Rob, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to say thanks to everyone who's made the effort for what's a >>>>>>>> pretty thankless and costly investment of time - trying to convey a >>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>> that Home Affairs appear intent to ignore. The Home Affairs >>>>>>>> consultation >>>>>>>> was a wash. Let's hope PJCIS actually engage with the process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However if you don't engage with the process, you can't complain >>>>>>>> about the results, so thanks again to those who've made submissions >>>>>>>> (Home >>>>>>>> Affairs and then again for PJCIS) to see that our industry's needs get >>>>>>>> represented and, if not acknowledged, are at least on the public >>>>>>>> record to >>>>>>>> hold Home Affairs to account for what's some pretty imperious >>>>>>>> unilateralism >>>>>>>> and shabby disregard for the industry's and the public's concerns and >>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>> interests. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have just sent through my submission on behalf of ITPA. It's >>>>>>>>> also published here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.itpa.org.au/news/itpa-submission-pjcis-telecommunications-and-other-legislation-amendment-assistance-and-access-bill-/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:17, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My submission is now up on PJCIS . Worth a read for anyone >>>>>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Oh ho!! Now the rush behind the bill all makes sense - so the >>>>>>>>>>> AFP can go after whoever leaked against Dutton and his au pairs! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/11/afp-search-raids-affairs-department-peter-dutton-au-pair-visa-leaks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Glad we cleared that up. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:14, Christian Heinrich < >>>>>>>>>>>> christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Good job peeps, 24 hours before submissions close with JCIS. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are 343 listed as of today (Thursday). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Heinrich >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cmlh.id.au/contact >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>> >>>>>
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