Oh, well almost elevated to Federal Parliament. On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:55, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The turnup on Saturday with the elevation of Kerryn Phelps to Federal > Parliament means a very different playing field for Dutton. It's one thing > to ask Labor to pass a Bill in the Senate whose function is (supposedly) a > House of Review. Now Dutton has to get the Bill through not 1 but 2 houses, > and more importantly, the Lower House effectively authors Bills. Labor is > less likely to support the Bill in the Lower House. > > Phelps said prior to the election the purpose of independents is to "hold > the government to account, not to ransom", so we'll have to wait and see. > Her stated priorities are environment and refugees, so obviously won't want > to scrape off the shiny new mint of political capital on Law and Order > issues, but she's been a strong human rights advocate, and the Bill raises > serious human rights issues. > > Kind regards > > Paul Wilkins > > > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 15:28, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If you're concerned by the Bill's overreach, where it allows for >> arbitrary and disproportionate interference in privacy, write the >> Parliamentary Joint Committee on Human Rights: human.rig...@aph.gov.au >> >> Kind regards >> Paul Wilkins >> >> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:31, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Appeared this morning. Runs to 60pp vs 20pp for the Home Affairs >>> submission. >>> >>> >>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=859d9cda-0f99-4bef-994f-edc6006c87bf&subId=661321 >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:55, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd also venture the roll call for Friday is in no small degree window >>>> dressing for Saturday's Wentworth turnout. I did forward my letter to PJCIS >>>> onto Kerryn Phelps. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Paul Wilkins >>>> >>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:48, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Committee is currently accepting submissions to this review. >>>>> Submissions should be provided no later than *12pm, Friday, 12 >>>>> October 2018.* An initial Public Hearing is expected to be held on >>>>> Friday, 19 October 2018. *Further Public Hearings will be scheduled >>>>> for late October or early November 2018.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018 >>>>> <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018>* >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:44, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Optus (Singtel)'s submission was soft touch, saying they'll impose >>>>>> whatever's required by government dictate. Pretty much to be expected >>>>>> given >>>>>> their parent company is Singapore based. As Rob points out, most making >>>>>> submissions won't be heard from. I'd go so far as to say this is by >>>>>> design. >>>>>> Some very critical views are not to be heard from. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The schedule for the first day of public hearings on the 19th of >>>>>>> October (this Friday) has been released: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=false >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For those who don't wish to download the PDF document, the following >>>>>>> parties are scheduled to speak on this day: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * The Department of Home Affairs. >>>>>>> * The Law Council of Australia. This is an interesting one - it >>>>>>> appears (unless my eyes are failing me) that they did not make a >>>>>>> submission >>>>>>> at all (or at least not one that the PJCIS has chosen to publish - their >>>>>>> submission numbering goes to 66, yet their website counts only 64 >>>>>>> submissions - submissions 12 and 14 are missing). >>>>>>> * Optus "and others TBC". >>>>>>> * Ai Group "and others TBC" (interestingly, Ai Group is only one of >>>>>>> the parties involved in the cited submission - so they can't even >>>>>>> attribute >>>>>>> the submissions to the correct/complete groups). >>>>>>> * Amazon, BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" (noting that >>>>>>> the BSA submission is cited in the submissions pack for the day, but >>>>>>> Amazon's isn't - and nor is it listed on the main list of submissions). >>>>>>> * TBC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a pack of submissions (4 of them) relevant for the day - >>>>>>> it's here if anyone's keen (particularly useful given some of the >>>>>>> oddities >>>>>>> I'll mention next): >>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?hearingid=28560&submissions=true >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Each is allocated a different time frame as well - DOHA have 60 >>>>>>> minutes allocated, the Law Council of Australia get 45 minutes, Optus >>>>>>> "and >>>>>>> others TBC" get 45 minutes, Ai Group "and others TBC" receive 60 >>>>>>> minutes, >>>>>>> Amazon, BSA | The Software Alliance "and others TBC" receive 75 minutes, >>>>>>> and then the "TBC" section has a start time (3:15pm) but no finish time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It concerns me that as of nearly 9pm Sydney time on the 16th of >>>>>>> October that "and others TBC" and "TBC" is still undefined for hearings >>>>>>> starting on the 19th of October. I expressed an interest in >>>>>>> participating >>>>>>> in the public hearings on behalf of ITPA very early on in the >>>>>>> consultation >>>>>>> period - yet IF we do get invited to attend the public hearing on the >>>>>>> 19th, >>>>>>> they're giving me very little time to get myself down there (and to be >>>>>>> honest, I may not be able to attend at this late notice, given I would >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> to make arrangements both at home and at work for me to travel to >>>>>>> Canberra >>>>>>> on Friday). I also can't start to plan for dates that aren't even >>>>>>> published yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another concern is that with "around 65" submissions made, only a >>>>>>> very small number of organisations have been invited to the public >>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>> - I believe there was talk of further public hearing days been added, >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> there's no indication of that on the PJCIS website at this stage - this >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> particularly concerning when you look at some of the parties NOT yet >>>>>>> invited - organisations like Cisco, Telstra and Apple in particular >>>>>>> given >>>>>>> that Optus, Amazon and BSA are invited). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It will be interesting to see how things continue to run from here. >>>>>>> At this stage, I am not seeing evidence that the appropriate level and >>>>>>> breadth of consultation will take place to ensure an appropriate outcome >>>>>>> for Australia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 17:37, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert, >>>>>>>> When in Canberra, don't look for any support from PJCIS Chairman >>>>>>>> Andrew Hastie, who is a Dutton supporter, and one of the leading >>>>>>>> conspirators in rolling Turnbull. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 12:45, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PJCIS is listing 37 submissions - way down on the 343 that were >>>>>>>>> made to the Department of Home Affairs, but hopefully they'll >>>>>>>>> actually get >>>>>>>>> read and considered this time around. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried to stick to ITPA's area of expertise (tehnology) in the >>>>>>>>> hope that other parties more qualified than us have focused on areas >>>>>>>>> outside of technology - I have strong opinions in those areas, but >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> it best to let experts make the points there. I also made it clear >>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>> PJCIS that ITPA wishes to be invited to the public hearing, we'll see >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> that goes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:26, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Rob, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to say thanks to everyone who's made the effort for what's >>>>>>>>>> a pretty thankless and costly investment of time - trying to convey a >>>>>>>>>> message that Home Affairs appear intent to ignore. The Home Affairs >>>>>>>>>> consultation was a wash. Let's hope PJCIS actually engage with the >>>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However if you don't engage with the process, you can't complain >>>>>>>>>> about the results, so thanks again to those who've made submissions >>>>>>>>>> (Home >>>>>>>>>> Affairs and then again for PJCIS) to see that our industry's needs >>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>> represented and, if not acknowledged, are at least on the public >>>>>>>>>> record to >>>>>>>>>> hold Home Affairs to account for what's some pretty imperious >>>>>>>>>> unilateralism >>>>>>>>>> and shabby disregard for the industry's and the public's concerns >>>>>>>>>> and best >>>>>>>>>> interests. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 09:46, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have just sent through my submission on behalf of ITPA. It's >>>>>>>>>>> also published here: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.itpa.org.au/news/itpa-submission-pjcis-telecommunications-and-other-legislation-amendment-assistance-and-access-bill-/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 17:17, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My submission is now up on PJCIS . Worth a read for anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ho!! Now the rush behind the bill all makes sense - so the >>>>>>>>>>>>> AFP can go after whoever leaked against Dutton and his au pairs! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/11/afp-search-raids-affairs-department-peter-dutton-au-pair-visa-leaks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad we cleared that up. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dep't Home Affairs submission to PJCIS has turned up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=8704d357-2f09-4173-871a-f073166d4e10&subId=660956 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Wilkins >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:14, Christian Heinrich < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM Paul Wilkins < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Good job peeps, 24 hours before submissions close with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JCIS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are 343 listed as of today (Thursday). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Heinrich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cmlh.id.au/contact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
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