Hello James,
 
What i understood from below communication is You want to group the production 
orders( for diff Items/FG) which are generated with a reference of same Sales 
Order. And if the Scheduling date is changed because of any material constraint 
then the changed date should be applicable to all related Production orders.
 
Say 1 Customer has a Sales Order created in Ax with 10 Lines for different 
items. Then you want to start these production orders (for all 10 FG/Items) on 
a same date. But in actual scenario it will not possible as the components of 
these 10 FG items may have a different purchase lead time. so all the orders 
can not be started together. Ax will give you the start date considering the 
On-hand inventory and Open inventory transactions for the items. Also there 
might be a case in which one of the 10 Fg items have a Sub-Bom in it and 
without manufacturing that sub-bom you will not be able to manufacture the 
parent FG. Till the order is in Planned state you can anytime reschedule the 
order but once it is firmed then you will have to change the delivery date of 
the Production order (In Production order > General tab) and then do the 
scheduling for it. You can also do the "Explosion" for the Production order and 
handle the new requirements for it.
 
But as of now the grouping of the orders against one Sales Order is not 
available in Ax. Probably a customization will solve your problem as you can 
always see the reference of the planned order in "Pegging" section of the 
Planned Production order form.
 
I am not sure whether my understanding is accurate. Let me know if am wrong 
somewhere in understanding the requirement :)
 
Waiting to hear from you.
 
-Tushar

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Date: Thursday, 27 November, 2008, 12:46 PM







Sorry Harry,
 
The schedule with finite material which I think is what you mean by the 
'limited by materials' option I understand but I am trying to group several 
production orders together so that they all only start on a date when all 
materialfor all the production orders has a confirmed date. If one of the 
material POs should later have a change in confirmed date then the scheduling 
should reschedule ALL the grouped production orders to the new date.
 
The scenario is revolving around project based manufacturer whereby the 
customer does not have a lot of spare space to hold finsihed items (even if 
they did have space they would still want to group by the project) and so they 
maybe get a project that has maybe 30 different FG to be produced and then 
delivered on a certain date. They want to do the picking of all the material at 
the same time for all 30 Productions as well as do the 30 production ordrs 
together so they can then ship them out all together at the correct date.
 
All the production orders are pretty much involving only human labour and 
therefore there is not real machine constraints. So the customer would like all 
30 production orders to be 'together' in the scheduling then the shop floor 
(assembly) can just go and start any of them and then move on to the next one 
until they are all finished and then the project can be shipped out 
 
Thanks
James
 
 
 



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I am not sure of what you are saying. Did you try ‘limited by materials’ 
checkbox while scheduling production orders?

Regards

Harry




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Thanks Harry



Kind of getting you although probably not 100%



The production orders planned start date should be based on when the material 
is available

If the material is delayed then the start date of the production orders should 
be delayed and the user warned if they will miss the delivery date



I believe this is how the master planning is doing in AX (for single item) if 
everything is still in the planned status. But once firmed then I think AX 
master planning does not really give a good indication to the user 



Thanks

James








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Hi James
Planned prod orders during coverage are scheduled backward from delivery date 
and during futures are scheduled forward from requirement date.
In theory planned prod orders at (only for products at level 0) can be 
scheduled forward from some date however what do you want to do in case such 
products cannot be manufactured before the delivery date?
Regards
Harry


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Thanks Sayeed,

I think maybe I didnt make it clear that each production order is for different 
items.  I dont think the grouping you are talking about works in this case 
right?

Thanks
James



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Subject: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for 
planning

HI James,

The planned production orders can be merged as one group, or one 
production order from the Planned orders form...but once these orders 
are firmed you can split them but cannot merge...

Hope this helps

Regards

Sayeed

--- In Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "James Flavell" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone
> 
> I am not a master planning or production expert so not sure if my
> requirement is available in std AX. If it is not I would for sure 
appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has considered or managed to address the
> requirement.
> 
> What I need to be able to do is group all production orders for a 
given
> sales order so that master planning plans them all for the same 
start date.
> So if I have 10 production orders that master planning treats them 
as one
> and works out the latest delivery date of any of the 10s components 
and then
> plans that all 10 will start at that time (even if for some of the
> production orders master planning can see they could start 
earlier). Of
> course following on from this would be to have all the planned 
purchase
> orders suggested based on the start date of the grouped production 
order etc
> 
> I believe this is quite a difficult thing to do but would like to 
know if
> there is anyway (std or otherwise)
> 
> Thanks
> James
>

 














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