I completely forgot to reply to this thread :) >From what you are saying all production orders are at the same level. In this >case what you need to do is that create a map in memory.
Say a sales order is required on 1st of March. You will have to have a variable called 'acceptable difference' which is say 3 days. The map in memory has all the related production orders. If any one of them is delivered beyond 4th March (1st March + acceptable difference) then you need to reschedule rest of them. You will need to put this in a loop so that you do not get into infinite scheduling. You will also need to check if the rescheduled production orders are giving your worse results than the scheduled ones. Regards Harry From: Axapta-Knowledge-Village@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Flavell Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:19 AM To: Axapta-Knowledge-Village@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge-Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning Thanks Tushar, Your understanding is correct and so far it seems noone else has needed this requirement based :( I think a modification would require quite a lot of effort given the way master planning would need to work At the moment the customer who wants this requirement might not be going ahead so I maybe can forget about it but it is an interesting concept in terms of how to do production (our rather assembly) and minimise storage space required. I am sure there are 101 ways master planning and production could be configured to give some kind of meaningful results but the customer is very sure this 'simple' requirement should be as they state rather than as best as AX can do... of course I do not necessairly agree and am sure there are many good reasons to argue looking at how AX does it can offer benefits Thanks Tushar and all those who have feedback...if there is any more do feel free as this is far from over (just on pause at the moment) James ________________________________ From: Axapta-Knowledge-Village@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tushar Joshi Sent: 08 December 2008 12:52 To: Axapta-Knowledge-Village@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge-Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning Hello James, What i understood from below communication is You want to group the production orders( for diff Items/FG) which are generated with a reference of same Sales Order. And if the Scheduling date is changed because of any material constraint then the changed date should be applicable to all related Production orders. Say 1 Customer has a Sales Order created in Ax with 10 Lines for different items. Then you want to start these production orders (for all 10 FG/Items) on a same date. But in actual scenario it will not possible as the components of these 10 FG items may have a different purchase lead time. so all the orders can not be started together. Ax will give you the start date considering the On-hand inventory and Open inventory transactions for the items. Also there might be a case in which one of the 10 Fg items have a Sub-Bom in it and without manufacturing that sub-bom you will not be able to manufacture the parent FG. Till the order is in Planned state you can anytime reschedule the order but once it is firmed then you will have to change the delivery date of the Production order (In Production order > General tab) and then do the scheduling for it. You can also do the "Explosion" for the Production order and handle the new requirements for it. But as of now the grouping of the orders against one Sales Order is not available in Ax. Probably a customization will solve your problem as you can always see the reference of the planned order in "Pegging" section of the Planned Production order form. I am not sure whether my understanding is accurate. Let me know if am wrong somewhere in understanding the requirement :) Waiting to hear from you. -Tushar --- On Thu, 27/11/08, James Flavell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: James Flavell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge-Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning To: Axapta-Knowledge-Village@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 27 November, 2008, 12:46 PM Sorry Harry, The schedule with finite material which I think is what you mean by the 'limited by materials' option I understand but I am trying to group several production orders together so that they all only start on a date when all materialfor all the production orders has a confirmed date. If one of the material POs should later have a change in confirmed date then the scheduling should reschedule ALL the grouped production orders to the new date. The scenario is revolving around project based manufacturer whereby the customer does not have a lot of spare space to hold finsihed items (even if they did have space they would still want to group by the project) and so they maybe get a project that has maybe 30 different FG to be produced and then delivered on a certain date. They want to do the picking of all the material at the same time for all 30 Productions as well as do the 30 production ordrs together so they can then ship them out all together at the correct date. All the production orders are pretty much involving only human labour and therefore there is not real machine constraints. So the customer would like all 30 production orders to be 'together' in the scheduling then the shop floor (assembly) can just go and start any of them and then move on to the next one until they are all finished and then the project can be shipped out Thanks James ________________________________ From: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:Axapta- Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Deshpande Sent: 27 November 2008 00:57 To: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning I am not sure of what you are saying. Did you try 'limited by materials' checkbox while scheduling production orders? Regards Harry From: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:Axapta- Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of James Flavell Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:19 AM To: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning Thanks Harry Kind of getting you although probably not 100% The production orders planned start date should be based on when the material is available If the material is delayed then the start date of the production orders should be delayed and the user warned if they will miss the delivery date I believe this is how the master planning is doing in AX (for single item) if everything is still in the planned status. But once firmed then I think AX master planning does not really give a good indication to the user Thanks James ________________________________ From: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:Axapta- Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Deshpande Sent: 24 November 2008 12:22 To: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning Hi James Planned prod orders during coverage are scheduled backward from delivery date and during futures are scheduled forward from requirement date. In theory planned prod orders at (only for products at level 0) can be scheduled forward from some date however what do you want to do in case such products cannot be manufactured before the delivery date? Regards Harry From: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:Axapta- Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of James Flavell Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:31 PM To: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: RE: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning Thanks Sayeed, I think maybe I didnt make it clear that each production order is for different items. I dont think the grouping you are talking about works in this case right? Thanks James ________________________________ From: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:Axapta- Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com] On Behalf Of ax_con Sent: 23 November 2008 16:38 To: Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [Axapta-Knowledge- Village] Re: Grouping of production orders for planning HI James, The planned production orders can be merged as one group, or one production order from the Planned orders form...but once these orders are firmed you can split them but cannot merge... Hope this helps Regards Sayeed --- In Axapta-Knowledge- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com<mailto:Axapta-Knowledge-Village%40yahoogroups.com>, "James Flavell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good morning everyone > > I am not a master planning or production expert so not sure if my > requirement is available in std AX. If it is not I would for sure appreciate > hearing from anyone who has considered or managed to address the > requirement. > > What I need to be able to do is group all production orders for a given > sales order so that master planning plans them all for the same start date. > So if I have 10 production orders that master planning treats them as one > and works out the latest delivery date of any of the 10s components and then > plans that all 10 will start at that time (even if for some of the > production orders master planning can see they could start earlier). Of > course following on from this would be to have all the planned purchase > orders suggested based on the start date of the grouped production order etc > > I believe this is quite a difficult thing to do but would like to know if > there is anyway (std or otherwise) > > Thanks > James > ________________________________ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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