On 20/02/2008, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 20/02/2008, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I don't know guys, it may have been said multiple times but the only
> > winner in this battle must be the online services.
> >
> > However I'm still left wondering when the general public will get their
> > head around non-physical media. People seem to like the look and feel of
> > physical media like CDs, Vinyl, DVDs.
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>

Or, put it this way.

In the late 1970s, home computers were the digital watch with it's
battery-flattening LED display, the calculator and a "TV game" called Tennis
(aka Pong).  The game scored to 15 points because it was a FOUR bit
processor.

There was always Prestel, a acoustic-coupler version of Ceefax, a 40x24
display on a 1275 modem.  That's 1200bps download, 75bps upload.

You could store data on a compact cassette at perhaps the same 1200  baud,

When I started at one school, they had TWO computers.  An Apple ][ and a BBC
B!  The former had a printer and there were two games for it.

My first network I set up was an Econet of BBC Micros.  The "server" was a
10Mb Winchester drive.  The whole school used it.  The micros had 32K of
RAM, 32K of ROM and a 8 bit CPU at around 1Mhz.  The Econet network ran
in up to a massive 100kbps!

My first "professional" Netware installation was a Netware 3 one.  By then
the server had a 1Gb drive, the network was "thick" and "thin" 10Mb/s
network.  The "WAN" used Kilostreams at 64kps, and that led eventually the
the Internet.   As I recall those iMega 100Mb drives were all the rage.

A few years later I used a Sun SparcStation to digitally record my first
full audio track.  I've still got the recording and I don't think it would
past muster these days!

When I start MP3ing all my CDs, I get a Rio 100.  With 64Mb of memory!  Ten
tracks, if you are lucky, or double the RAM for £100.  But even then my
office 64kbps KiloStream to the Internet costs me £4000 a year!  That's £173
a month for a service that is 1/32th the speed of a bog-standard 2Mb/s
broadband you get for free (sort of) now.

If you can't be persuaded by the science of climate change or peak oil, then
if there is any better dead-cert it's Moore's Law.


By 2015 the nets going to be 100s of Mb/s, it's going to be a question of
how you can display all those 3D HD feeds at once!




>  I was talking to Dave about this in Edinburgh.
>
> The thing is, the current evidence suggests that this might be a false
> assumption.
>
> From a physiological point of view, lots of marketing efforts does indeed
> go into selling "things" to people.  However, the modern liberal
> international capitalist system puts a lot of effort into promoting
> "brands", which a not things, but virtual.
>
> It is quite a logical step to say that brands therefore exist in
> cyberspace.  They have value only as something that is possessed by a
> company that hey can use.
>
> I've got three enormous boxes that I have all my CDs in.  I gaffer taped
> them up when I finished MP3ing them, which was years ago now.  How many
> times have I unpacked them?  None.
>
> I've got a Vista Media Center with all my music on it, and I can copy and
> play this (using www.orb.com) anywhere.  It's connected to the TV and has
> a remote control, and does my videos and all my thousands of photos.  I can
> access all this lot from where ever with one remote control.
>
> I'm not alone.  Everyone with an MP3 player (say an iPod) can carry around
> an amount of music you couldn't carry around in a transit van if it were on
> vinyl.
>
> Look, I'm such a nerd that I bought all of Star Trek (not Enterprise,
> obviously but with the Cartoons), Doctor Who and Blake's Seven on VHS and
> they took up the whole damn loft!  Now I can have it all on a box smaller
> than half a VHS cassette.
>
> And if that's not enough.  To quote from Down The Line, "What is point
> DVD?"
>
> The weirdest exam result (was the A) I got for an AO Level in "Science in
> Society", so I've known about the idea of "peak oil" and "climate change"
> for ages.  I recon that if we are going to run out of the oil and stop
> killing the planet, then the easiest thing for people to give up is buying
> data stamped onto heavy plastic carted around by lorry.  It's just so
> unnecessary!
>
> If you are investing, invest in fat datapipes not past-it plastic.
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/19/musicnews.netmusic?gusrc=rss&feed=technology
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> Cheers
> >
> > zzzzzIan Forrester
> >
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Woodhouse
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> > Subject: RE: [backstage] HD-DVD / Blu Ray
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> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 15:26 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > What I /heart/ about the pre-2K bit of plastic is the way it takes
> > > control over your TV/DVD and insists that you watch the copyright
> > > notices
> >
> > Sounds like you need to get yourself a better DVD player.
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