*Mark Clear wrote (on Facebook)"Whether bike lanes on this particular segment of Segoe are a good idea is a separate question from the Madison Yards project, and deserves its own review. It never came up in the year-plus review of the project. Segoe is not being altered by the project. One member of the Plan Commission added this condition at (literally) the last minute, before anyone had a chance to think it through. "Ald. Martin and I thought it best not to conflate the discussion of bike lanes on Segoe with the project itself, which is why we proposed removing the condition."*
> If you want to see the full thread, it is available on the Madison Bikes group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MBIIC/permalink/1454886877950634/ I guess I'm still not clear (<ahem>) what actually happened. It sounds like, from the FB discussion, that Ald. Martin didn't say what the paper has her saying? “We wanted to take this [a city planning requirement that the developer work with the city’s traffic engineering staff to ensure that sufficient right-of-way is dedicated along Segoe Road to include bicycle lanes] out because there are concerns about parking in the area and we know that having bike lanes would be a great idea, but we want to make sure we maximize the parking around the facility,” Martin said." Ald. Clear makes it sound like somebody else added the amendment/condition and then mentions that this exemption panicked the developer and threatened their financing. I could see an condition *requiring* more land be dedicated for bike lanes might "panic" a developer and so an amendment to exempt them might be soothing ... for the developer. On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Robbie Webber <rob...@robbiewebber.org> wrote: > Please note that this is part of the Madison Yards development -- a > private, mixed-use development that will go east of the new DOT building > where the gigantic parking lot was located -- NOT the actual state > buildings. > > Also, the dispute seems to be about Segoe, not Sheboygan, and in a Madison > Bikes Facebook thread, we have been assured that things are not as they > seem in the article. (I'm skeptical, but am reporting what other alders > have said.) > > From Mark Clear, who represents the district west of Arvina's. (Mark is a > bike commuter, as is his wife, so should be a good advocate, although I > note he voted against the protected bike lanes on Winnebago last night as > well): > > > > > > *"I worked with Ald. Martin on this amendment. "Whether bike lanes on this > particular segment of Segoe are a good idea is a separate question from the > Madison Yards project, and deserves its own review. It never came up in the > year-plus review of the project. Segoe is not being altered by the project. > One member of the Plan Commission added this condition at (literally) the > last minute, before anyone had a chance to think it through. "Ald. Martin > and I thought it best not to conflate the discussion of bike lanes on Segoe > with the project itself, which is why we proposed removing the condition."* > > If you want to see the full thread, it is available on the Madison Bikes > group here: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/MBIIC/permalink/1454886877950634/ > > Robbie Webber > Transportation geek > All opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of any group or > organization with which I am affiliated. > > Founding member, Madison Bikes <http://www.madisonbikes.org/> > *...where anyone can ride a bicycle conveniently and comfortably to any > place year round.* > MadisonBikes.org <http://www.madisonbikes.org/> > Follow Madison Bikes on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/groups/MBIIC/> > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dave Minden via Bikies < > bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > >> Seems like this is an issue for Bikies and Bike Fed to really weigh in >> on: really, the building housing the DOT not making room for bikes?!?! We >> need the community commitment to infrastructure whenever there are new >> buildings, road work, etc. The neighborhood around Rennebohm Park is >> already compromised by Regent Street and Eau Claire Ave. being parked in >> since the DOT building's parking is now costs employees to park - so >> they've clogged the streets. Clogging Sheboygan and eliminating a well-used >> bike corridor is a mistake! >> >> Dave >> >> >> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:06 PM, Andy Bach via Bikies < >> bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: >> >> >> distric...@cityofmadison.com - Ald. Martin's email >> >> This is from an article about actions at the Council last night, >> including the approval of a plan for the property next to the WisDOT >> building behind Hilldale. >> >> "Ald. Arvina Martin, District 11, proposed an amendment that would remove >> a requirement that the developer work with the city’s traffic engineering >> staff to ensure that sufficient right-of-way is dedicated along Segoe Road >> to include bicycle lanes >> >> “We wanted to take this out because there are concerns about parking in >> the area and we know that having bike lanes would be a great idea, but we >> want to make sure we maximize the parking around the facility,” Martin >> said." >> >> Apparently she's running for Sec. of State, now. >> -- >> >> a >> >> Andy Bach, >> afb...@gmail.com >> 608 658-1890 cell >> 608 261-5738 wk >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> Bikies@lists.danenet.org >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bikies mailing list >> Bikies@lists.danenet.org >> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >> >> > -- a Andy Bach, afb...@gmail.com 608 658-1890 cell 608 261-5738 wk
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