I’m confused too. Can someone explain who proposed the amendment,why,and if not related to Madison yards, in what context? Sent from my tin can.
> On May 2, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Andy Bach via Bikies <bikies@lists.danenet.org> > wrote: > > Mark Clear wrote (on Facebook) > "Whether bike lanes on this particular segment of Segoe are a good idea is a > separate question from the Madison Yards project, and deserves its own > review. It never came up in the year-plus review of the project. Segoe is not > being altered by the project. One member of the Plan Commission added this > condition at (literally) the last minute, before anyone had a chance to think > it through. > > "Ald. Martin and I thought it best not to conflate the discussion of bike > lanes on Segoe with the project itself, which is why we proposed removing the > condition." > > > If you want to see the full thread, it is available on the Madison Bikes > > group here: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/MBIIC/permalink/1454886877950634/ > > I guess I'm still not clear (<ahem>) what actually happened. It sounds like, > from the FB discussion, that Ald. Martin didn't say what the paper has her > saying? > “We wanted to take this [a city planning requirement that the developer work > with the city’s traffic engineering staff to ensure that sufficient > right-of-way is dedicated along Segoe Road to include bicycle lanes] out > because there are concerns about parking in the area and we know that having > bike lanes would be a great idea, but we want to make sure we maximize the > parking around the facility,” Martin said." > > Ald. Clear makes it sound like somebody else added the amendment/condition > and then mentions that this exemption panicked the developer and threatened > their financing. I could see an condition *requiring* more land be dedicated > for bike lanes might "panic" a developer and so an amendment to exempt them > might be soothing ... for the developer. > > >> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Robbie Webber <rob...@robbiewebber.org> >> wrote: >> Please note that this is part of the Madison Yards development -- a private, >> mixed-use development that will go east of the new DOT building where the >> gigantic parking lot was located -- NOT the actual state buildings. >> >> Also, the dispute seems to be about Segoe, not Sheboygan, and in a Madison >> Bikes Facebook thread, we have been assured that things are not as they seem >> in the article. (I'm skeptical, but am reporting what other alders have >> said.) >> >> From Mark Clear, who represents the district west of Arvina's. (Mark is a >> bike commuter, as is his wife, so should be a good advocate, although I note >> he voted against the protected bike lanes on Winnebago last night as well): >> >> "I worked with Ald. Martin on this amendment. >> >> "Whether bike lanes on this particular segment of Segoe are a good idea is a >> separate question from the Madison Yards project, and deserves its own >> review. It never came up in the year-plus review of the project. Segoe is >> not being altered by the project. One member of the Plan Commission added >> this condition at (literally) the last minute, before anyone had a chance to >> think it through. >> >> "Ald. Martin and I thought it best not to conflate the discussion of bike >> lanes on Segoe with the project itself, which is why we proposed removing >> the condition." >> >> If you want to see the full thread, it is available on the Madison Bikes >> group here: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/MBIIC/permalink/1454886877950634/ >> >> Robbie Webber >> Transportation geek >> All opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of any group or >> organization with which I am affiliated. >> >> Founding member, Madison Bikes >> ...where anyone can ride a bicycle conveniently and comfortably to any place >> year round. >> MadisonBikes.org >> Follow Madison Bikes on Facebook >> >>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dave Minden via Bikies >>> <bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: >>> Seems like this is an issue for Bikies and Bike Fed to really weigh in on: >>> really, the building housing the DOT not making room for bikes?!?! We need >>> the community commitment to infrastructure whenever there are new >>> buildings, road work, etc. The neighborhood around Rennebohm Park is >>> already compromised by Regent Street and Eau Claire Ave. being parked in >>> since the DOT building's parking is now costs employees to park - so >>> they've clogged the streets. Clogging Sheboygan and eliminating a well-used >>> bike corridor is a mistake! >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:06 PM, Andy Bach via Bikies >>> <bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> distric...@cityofmadison.com - Ald. Martin's email >>> >>> This is from an article about actions at the Council last night, including >>> the approval of a plan for the property next to the WisDOT building behind >>> Hilldale. >>> >>> "Ald. Arvina Martin, District 11, proposed an amendment that would remove a >>> requirement that the developer work with the city’s traffic engineering >>> staff to ensure that sufficient right-of-way is dedicated along Segoe Road >>> to include bicycle lanes >>> >>> “We wanted to take this out because there are concerns about parking in the >>> area and we know that having bike lanes would be a great idea, but we want >>> to make sure we maximize the parking around the facility,” Martin said." >>> >>> Apparently she's running for Sec. of State, now. >>> -- >>> >>> a >>> >>> Andy Bach, >>> afb...@gmail.com >>> 608 658-1890 cell >>> 608 261-5738 wk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> Bikies@lists.danenet.org >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bikies mailing list >>> Bikies@lists.danenet.org >>> http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >>> >> > > > > -- > > a > > Andy Bach, > afb...@gmail.com > 608 658-1890 cell > 608 261-5738 wk > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > Bikies@lists.danenet.org > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org
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