That is one of the reasons that I use a bn; I know what's going on, even when it malfunctions.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> To: "Paul Tandy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty What you are all forgetting is that laptops and netbooks do not have Braille displays or blind-friendly interfaces. If you like Windows then go for it, but I like keysoft more, especially with the display. I know that I will never run into an app not being supported, my display not connecting right, needing to ask a sighted person what the screen says when JAWS stops working for some reason... Braille notetakers definitely beat mainstream mobile devices in these areas, which is why I think they will always have their own nitch in the tech market. Have a great day, Alex > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul Tandy <[email protected] >To: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected]>, [email protected],[email protected] >Date sent: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:17:19 -0900 >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty >No, you can easily just buy a laptop that isn't even half as much >as a Braillenote. >Paul >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected] >>To: "Grant Hardy" ><[email protected]>,<[email protected] >>Date sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:42:38 -0500 >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty >>Trant, >>Remember that Dave mentioned that AOL was in talks with Google >for about a >>year, and that they might be migrating to this new Protocole in >yet another >>year--by end of 2009. That's one year of talking and another of >possibly >>moving over. >>Want to play the waiting game? >>Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Then, I suggest you look at >a netbook >>you like for less than $500, in time to think and save up for a >Braille >>Note, Stale Toat. >>Antonio Guimaraes >>If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of >pickup >>trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite >number of >>highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great >literary >>works in Braille. >>Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to >you. >>http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169 >>Givebackamerica.org, America's Online Charity Shopping Mall >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Grant Hardy" <[email protected] >>To: <[email protected] >>Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:08 PM >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty >>> Hi Dave, >>> You're correct, and I apologize - particularly as I paraphrased >your >>> comment >>> along with your name, I should have done so less sloppily, and >did indee >>> dmisrepresent what you had said. My apologies. >>> What I meant (correctly, I think) is that HW is implying that >closed >>> instant >>> messaging protocols will decrease in popularity, and while they >may do so >>> some day, I feel certain that Windows Live and Yahoo!'s >protocols will go >>> strong for many months to come. >>> Regards, >>> Grant >>> Grant >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:34 PM, dave wilkinson >>> <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> Dear Grant, >>>> In your post to the BrailleNote listsereve, you misrepresented >what I >>>> said. I said that more and more chat clients were using XMPP, >and as >>>> proof of that Greg Stillson cited AOL's discussions with Google. >The >>>> point wasn't that chat services are going away, it is that they >are >>>> starting to use more open platforms. >>>> Dave >>>> Dave Wilkinson >>>> Western Region Blindness Product Specialist >>>> 800-722-3393, ext. 241 >>>> [email protected] >>>> www.humanware.com >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >Grant Hardy >>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:04 PM >>>> To: BrailleNote mailing list >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty >>>> Hi all, >>>> In today's Tech Talk presentation on KeySoft 8, I emphasized the >fact >>>> that while nearly everyone on the University of British Columbia >campus >>>> with me carries around laptops and mobile devices with Windows >Live >>>> Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger, I know nobody who uses Google >Talk, >>>> iChat, or any other open instant messaging service. And with >two other >>>> notetaking products--the Braille Sense and the PAC >Mate--supporting >>>> Windows Live, I asked at what stage, if at all, the BrailleNote >would >>>> follow suit. In an evasive response, Dave Wilkinson from >Humanware >>>> implied that somehow Windows Live and Yahoo! were going to >disintegrate, >>>> so it really isn't necessary anyway. >>>> Not true: the one and only reason neither Yahoo! nor Windows >Live need >>>> to use an open instant messaging standard is due to the sheer >volume of >>>> users who already populate their services. Rather than adapting >to this >>>> truth as other competing products have, the BrailleNote from >Humanware >>>> will change the way you communicate in realtime...if you can >convince >>>> everyone you know to switch instant mesaging clients. >>>> There is also no way to sign in invisibly (also called appearing >>>> offline) in KeyChat. This is standard in all other messaging >clients >>>> that I have come across, and is a great way to see who's online >without >>>> getting flooded with instant messages. Greg Stilson from >Humanware >>>> discounted this and called it "kinda creepy", so apparently the >>>> BrailleNote user base will not see this function, either. >>>> Normally I don't rant, but I am upset with the attitude of these >>>> Humanware >>>> representatives: instead of politely stating that these >essential >>>> features are not yet present in KeyChat, they instead discounted >their >>>> importance. >>>> So to summarize: communicate in real time with the 1 % of your >friends >>>> that KeyChat will support, and don't expect to be able to sign >in >>>> invisibly, cuz that's just kinda creepy! >>>> Grant >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to >the >>>> list as well. >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> ___ >>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>> copy to the list as well. >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [email protected] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>copy to the list as well. >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[email protected] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >copy to the list as well. >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[email protected] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to the list as well. To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [email protected] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
