>From what I gather from this list, no, because Humanware decided to use XNTP, an open source standard that only Googlemail and iChat use.
-- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: [email protected] MSN: [email protected] Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Head" <[email protected]> To: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>; "Paul Tandy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty I listened to the presentation earlier today and found it interesting. I just wanted to clarify, msn wasn't really mentioned or if it was I missed it. Can people who use msn or have a hotmail address access keyChat? from Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]> To: "Paul Tandy" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty > What you are all forgetting is that laptops and netbooks do not have > Braille displays or blind-friendly interfaces. If you like Windows then > go for it, but I like keysoft more, especially with the display. I know > that I will never run into an app not being supported, my display not > connecting right, needing to ask a sighted person what the screen says > when JAWS stops working for some reason... Braille notetakers definitely > beat mainstream mobile devices in these areas, which is why I think they > will always have their own nitch in the tech market. > > Have a great day, > Alex > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: Paul Tandy <[email protected] >>To: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected]>, > [email protected],[email protected] >>Date sent: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:17:19 -0900 >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty > >>No, you can easily just buy a laptop that isn't even half as much >>as a Braillenote. > >>Paul > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <[email protected] >>>To: "Grant Hardy" >><[email protected]>,<[email protected] >>>Date sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:42:38 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty > >>>Trant, > >>>Remember that Dave mentioned that AOL was in talks with Google >>for about a >>>year, and that they might be migrating to this new Protocole in >>yet another >>>year--by end of 2009. That's one year of talking and another of >>possibly >>>moving over. > >>>Want to play the waiting game? > >>>Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Then, I suggest you look at >>a netbook >>>you like for less than $500, in time to think and save up for a >>Braille >>>Note, Stale Toat. > >>>Antonio Guimaraes > >>>If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of >>pickup >>>trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite >>number of >>>highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great >>literary >>>works in Braille. > >>>Shop online and support the NFB of RI at no additional cost to >>you. >>>http://www.givebackamerica.com/charity.php?b=169 >>>Givebackamerica.org, America's Online Charity Shopping Mall >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Grant Hardy" <[email protected] >>>To: <[email protected] >>>Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:08 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty > > >>>> Hi Dave, > >>>> You're correct, and I apologize - particularly as I paraphrased >>your >>>> comment >>>> along with your name, I should have done so less sloppily, and >>did indee >>>> dmisrepresent what you had said. My apologies. > >>>> What I meant (correctly, I think) is that HW is implying that >>closed >>>> instant >>>> messaging protocols will decrease in popularity, and while they >>may do so >>>> some day, I feel certain that Windows Live and Yahoo!'s >>protocols will go >>>> strong for many months to come. > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Grant > >>>> Grant > >>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:34 PM, dave wilkinson >>>> <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> Dear Grant, > >>>>> In your post to the BrailleNote listsereve, you misrepresented >>what I >>>>> said. I said that more and more chat clients were using XMPP, >>and as >>>>> proof of that Greg Stillson cited AOL's discussions with Google. >>The >>>>> point wasn't that chat services are going away, it is that they >>are >>>>> starting to use more open platforms. > >>>>> Dave > > > >>>>> Dave Wilkinson >>>>> Western Region Blindness Product Specialist >>>>> 800-722-3393, ext. 241 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> www.humanware.com >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>Grant Hardy >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:04 PM >>>>> To: BrailleNote mailing list >>>>> Subject: [Braillenote] KeyChat Isn't Looking Too Pretty > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> In today's Tech Talk presentation on KeySoft 8, I emphasized the >>fact >>>>> that while nearly everyone on the University of British Columbia >>campus >>>>> with me carries around laptops and mobile devices with Windows >>Live >>>>> Messenger and Yahoo! Messenger, I know nobody who uses Google >>Talk, >>>>> iChat, or any other open instant messaging service. And with >>two other >>>>> notetaking products--the Braille Sense and the PAC >>Mate--supporting >>>>> Windows Live, I asked at what stage, if at all, the BrailleNote >>would >>>>> follow suit. In an evasive response, Dave Wilkinson from >>Humanware >>>>> implied that somehow Windows Live and Yahoo! were going to >>disintegrate, >>>>> so it really isn't necessary anyway. >>>>> Not true: the one and only reason neither Yahoo! nor Windows >>Live need >>>>> to use an open instant messaging standard is due to the sheer >>volume of >>>>> users who already populate their services. Rather than adapting >>to this >>>>> truth as other competing products have, the BrailleNote from >>Humanware >>>>> will change the way you communicate in realtime...if you can >>convince >>>>> everyone you know to switch instant mesaging clients. > >>>>> There is also no way to sign in invisibly (also called appearing >>>>> offline) in KeyChat. This is standard in all other messaging >>clients >>>>> that I have come across, and is a great way to see who's online >>without >>>>> getting flooded with instant messages. Greg Stilson from >>Humanware >>>>> discounted this and called it "kinda creepy", so apparently the >>>>> BrailleNote user base will not see this function, either. > >>>>> Normally I don't rant, but I am upset with the attitude of these >>>>> Humanware >>>>> representatives: instead of politely stating that these >>essential >>>>> features are not yet present in KeyChat, they instead discounted >>their >>>>> importance. > >>>>> So to summarize: communicate in real time with the 1 % of your >>friends >>>>> that KeyChat will support, and don't expect to be able to sign >>in >>>>> invisibly, cuz that's just kinda creepy! > >>>>> Grant >>>>> ___ >>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a copy to >>the >>>>> list as well. > >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > >>>> ___ >>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>> copy to the list as well. > >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>>___ >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>copy to the list as well. > >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[email protected] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > >>___ >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>copy to the list as well. > >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[email protected] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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